jayjayoghani Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Blimey that's tables turned. The amount of stuff I can't watch as I'm out of the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted November 16, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted November 16, 2017 Place has gone to the dogs https://youtu.be/XZ7rXwLBapg Blocked in the UK on copyright grounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave2980 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 ???? Cheers Micky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted November 16, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted November 16, 2017 Noticed all the Spurs players who cried off for England were fit for training today oddly enough. When you see the likes of Neymar giving his all in a friendly for his country compared to the attitude of some of our lot it goes some way to explaining performances like the one against Iceland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freds dad Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Noticed all the Spurs players who cried off for England were fit for training today oddly enough. When you see the likes of Neymar giving his all in a friendly for his country compared to the attitude of some of our lot it goes some way to explaining performances like the one against Iceland. If players pull out of National games with an "injury" they shouldn't be allowed to play in their next club game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted November 16, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted November 16, 2017 Ferguson was a cunt for that kind of thing and he was instrumental in turning players against their country, no matter what tripe Beckham comes out with. He wasn’t the only one, but he had some of the finest English players of a generation who rarely performed for their country. Eventually it spread to most players. The dogshit excuse that lampard and Gerrard weren’t ‘compatible’ in the same team is the biggest dollop of footballing bollocks I’ve ever heard. Fact is, they were all thinking about the next premier league game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted November 16, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted November 16, 2017 If players pull out of National games with an "injury" they shouldn't be allowed to play in their next club game Or if they do play for their club they automatically forfeit their place with England for X amount of games... I know it would never happen but at least it would mean those that wear the shirt actually give a fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Ferguson was a cunt for that kind of thing and he was instrumental in turning players against their country, no matter what tripe Beckham comes out with. He wasn’t the only one, but he had some of the finest English players of a generation who rarely performed for their country. Eventually it spread to most players. The dogshit excuse that lampard and Gerrard weren’t ‘compatible’ in the same team is the biggest dollop of footballing bollocks I’ve ever heard. Fact is, they were all thinking about the next premier league game. A lot of the United thing was to do with them being at the time the most hated club in the land. Everywhere they went their players got grief, stand up if you hate Man U was being sang at West Ham, Chelsea and all over the country. Not to mention Munich stuff at us, Leeds, city, Liverpool etc. All added to the us and them attitude fergie instilled. Their fans turned with all anti England songs and waving Argie flags etc. Needless to say they had the last laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 A lot of the United thing was to do with them being at the time the most hated club in the land. Everywhere they went their players got grief, stand up if you hate Man U was being sang at West Ham, Chelsea and all over the country. Not to mention Munich stuff at us, Leeds, city, Liverpool etc. All added to the us and them attitude fergie instilled. Their fans turned with all anti England songs and waving Argie flags etc. Needless to say they had the last laugh. Did they? One told me it's been rough supporting them the last few years???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyStardust Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Did they? One told me it's been rough supporting them the last few years Indeed, a colleague of mine says that the fact that he is now supporting them through the bad times shows how much of a fan he is. He says this without irony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 “The bad times” ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Fucken twat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 18, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted November 18, 2017 Interesting about players pulling out of friendlies with 'injuries' Story from mourinho that Phil Jones was given six injections into his thigh before the Brazil game and still aggravated the injury. I know he's red, but its no wonder clubs are wary if that is the treatment their players are risking. It was a friendly and he's not new to international football so it was unnecessary to play him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Surely it's time "friendlies" were dispensed with, they're generally a massive waste of time. The last two have been OK, as the opposition has been good, but some really are just shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Surely it's time "friendlies" were dispensed with, they're generally a massive waste of time. The last two have been OK, as the opposition has been good, but some really are just shit That is presumably why UEFA (and then FIFA) are doing just that. The draw for the UEFA Nations League is in January. There are 4 leagues. A, B and C each have 12 nations, D has the leftovers. The draw will split leagues into groups of 3 (4 in D), playing the opponents within the 3 autumn international breaks in 2018. The winners of the 4 groups in league A will play a knock-out mini tournament in June 2019, with the host country selected in December 2018. England are in league A, along with Germany, Portugal, Belgium, Spain, France, Switzerland, Italy, Poland, Iceland, Croatia and Netherlands. Wales and Nor'n Ireland are in B, and Scotland in C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Should scrap internationals. The standard used to be tip top, isn't even close now. Maybe just have a world cup every 4 years and fifa can achieve their dream of having everyone at it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted November 18, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted November 18, 2017 I guess Pochettino will be able to use his "injured" players as an excuse for losing today..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 18, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted November 18, 2017 His own fault for playing them. Kane was below par. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Brum 1 up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famouswanderer Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 And sunlun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famouswanderer Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 And sunlun And now 2-1 down :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Strange move for Chris Coleman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 And now 2-1 down draw would probably be best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatanGreavsie Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Should scrap internationals. The standard used to be tip top, isn't even close now. Maybe just have a world cup every 4 years and fifa can achieve their dream of having everyone at it Thing is, when I was first watching football in the 70s the idea behind a WC was that it would show the best possible team in the world. Because at that time there were very few examples of club teams building from outside their country. So you could imagine that the best collection of Dutch, Argie, Brazilian or German players could in fact be the very best 11 in the world. Maybe a Liverpool back then could challenge that, but it was a reasonable idea. And friendlies were promoted as exactly that. In the ongoing cold war, and just a generation or two after the war, England v East Germany could actually be a means to help mutual trust. But now, when you think about it, it's meaningless wank. Apart from the money it brings into FIFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted November 18, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted November 18, 2017 Wigan 1 - Bratferd 2 (90+2) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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