Meanwhile In England

[Alf Hartigan]

He reminded me of Laurence Bassini both in his gibberish and the way he sounds.

[Zico]

yeah but at least his daughter goes to a school consisting of only boys and girls and not 200+ forms of gender idenitfication

can't put a price on that

[gonzo]

Aye my lads secondary school is awash with two sexed black lesbian penguins.

[jmjhb]

35 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Aye my lads secondary school is awash with two sexed black lesbian penguins.

I bet you've got a video

[little whitt]

[kent_white]

3 hours ago, Cheese said:

I hope more of these traitorous cunts fuck off and stay over there.

 

The trouble is - the US or at least the current US administration is positioning itself further towards these authoritarian regimes and further away from western liberal democracy. The US are currently an authoritarian regime lite nowadays. 

I was reading today that the US now provides military support to Ukraine. According to the US (or should I say Russian) 'peace' plans. The EU are expected to keep purchasing £1.5bn of US military assets to keep Ukraine in the fight per annum- but with no financial contribution coming from the US.

Essentially the rest of NATO are expected to pick up the bill.

Additionally the plan involves half of the currently frozen Russian assets being redistributed to the US. Not only that - the EU would be the expected to pay £100b annually to help rebuild Ukraine. 

Add to that the new security strategy Donald Trump released last week - which basically paints the EU as the new enemy. It's even calling for "cultivating resistance to Europe's current trajectory within European nations". 

Tte world is changing fast - and as Europeans we need to start facing up to these facts and boltstering our defensive capabilities immediately. 

The trouble is - half of the current population of the UK are in cahoots with this dickhead. Traitorous cunts. 

Be time to start picking sides soon. This is why I've always said that Donald Trump is a dangerous fucker - even the thought of having this discussion a decade ago would have sounded ridiculous. 

I genuinely don't think it's too much of a stretch to envisage a situation where DT pulls the US out of NATO and throws his allegiances behind Russia. 

Edited December 8, 2025 by kent_white

[royal white]

It’s always the ones you’d least expect.

 

 

[Dimron]

18 minutes ago, kent_white said:

 

Tte world is changing fast - and as Europeans we need to start facing up to these facts and boltstering it's defensive capabilities immediately. 

The trouble is - half of the current population of the UK are in cahoots with it. 

 

I don't consider myself as "European" and more than half the population voted out.

To me the current EU is too eastern focussed and is dragging us via our Europhile PM towards financial ruin... what is the point of today's summit? Its just a sideshow when it comes to global politics. We need to tread more carefully than you suggest.

Edited December 8, 2025 by Dimron

[Cheese]

3 minutes ago, Dimron said:

I don't consider myself as "European" and more than half the population voted out.

To me the current EU is too eastern focussed and is dragging us via our Europhile PM towards financial ruin... what is the point of today's summit? Its just a sideshow when it comes to global politics. We need to tread more carefully than you suggest.

I'm sure there's a nice apartment waiting for you in Moscow.

[kent_white]

Just now, Dimron said:

I don't consider myself as "European" and more than half the population voted out.

To me the current EU is too eastern focussed and is dragging us via Europhile PM towards financial ruin... what is the point of today's summit? Its just a sideshow when it comes to global politics. We need to tread more carefully than you suggest.

Well sadly for you, you are European. Even if you're not a member of the EU. 

Today's summit is to at least an attempt to try and get some grown ups around the table, and to demonstrate real British values. And to battle. Even if that battle might seem hopeless. 

That's what being a British patriot means to me. 

To others it seems to be about cowtowing to the great orange one. 

 

[Spider]

7 minutes ago, Dimron said:

I don't consider myself as "European" and more than half the population voted out.

To me the current EU is too eastern focussed and is dragging us via our Europhile PM towards financial ruin... what is the point of today's summit? Its just a sideshow when it comes to global politics. We need to tread more carefully than you suggest.

What’s the point to any meeting with other countries?

Needless.

Lets just get on with making spitfires and cricket bats and and and eccentric posh MP’s. We’re good at that.

[Winchester White]

33 minutes ago, Dimron said:

I don't consider myself as "European" and more than half the population voted out.

To me the current EU is too eastern focussed and is dragging us via our Europhile PM towards financial ruin... what is the point of today's summit? Its just a sideshow when it comes to global politics. We need to tread more carefully than you suggest.

You are confusing European with the EU. Also, over half the population did not vote to leave the EU.

Russia wants to be seen as one of the big 3 but in reality it is really struggling. China and India are buying their oil at hugely reduced prices while it tries to source shite munitions from North Korea.

[Cheese]

 

[kent_white]

22 minutes ago, Cheese said:

 

Who would you trust the US to back? This continent needs to start standing on its own two feet again. 

For the first time next year - we will collectively may more into our armed forces than the US. 

That makes us very powerful in 10 years time providing we don't pull ourselves apart or the US haven't "cultivated a resistance to Europe's current trajectory within European nations"

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

Well sadly for you, you are European. Even if you're not a member of the EU. 

Today's summit is to at least an attempt to try and get some grown ups around the table, and to demonstrate real British values. And to battle. Even if that battle might seem hopeless. 

That's what being a British patriot means to me. 

To others it seems to be about cowtowing to the great orange one. 

 

We're also earthlings!

European is great for the golf, and useful as a collective for security.

At least that is how it should be, but sadly, the disagreement and lack of will between nations isn't exactly helping with regards to security. 

That's undoubtedly why we've signed mutual defence agreements with various European nations, and weapons agreements too, but as partnerships or small groups, and not a European collective. 

By extension, that could also apply to NATO, as Trump isn't exactly filling others with confidence if article 5 was enacted.

 

[Dimron]

1 hour ago, Spider said:

What’s the point to any meeting with other countries?

 

Todays meeting was between the politicians with the biggest arms industries and troubles at home, try putting mind in gear... boost your economy by blowing up tens of thousands of young lives, arms sales always have very good margins and you look strong and purposeful

[Dimron]

1 hour ago, Winchester White said:

You are confusing European with the EU. Also, over half the population did not vote to leave the EU.

Russia wants to be seen as one of the big 3 but in reality it is really struggling. China and India are buying their oil at hugely reduced prices while it tries to source shite munitions from North Korea.

Belgium are standing back from sanctions as they could bankrupt their economy, Italy are cold regarding NATO-PURL, then there's Turkey and Hungary...

 

[Dimron]

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

 

Can you summarise please in your own words as I don't do Twitter/X

[Dimron]

24 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

We're also earthlings!

European is great for the golf, and useful as a collective for security.

At least that is how it should be, but sadly, the disagreement and lack of will between nations isn't exactly helping with regards to security. 

That's undoubtedly why we've signed mutual defence agreements with various European nations, and weapons agreements too, but as partnerships or small groups, and not a European collective. 

By extension, that could also apply to NATO, as Trump isn't exactly filling others with confidence if article 5 was enacted.

 

I want to do the best for OUR country not some Baltic or Black Sea state.

Do we back the dangerous little man or the dangerous big man?

[Winchester White]

6 minutes ago, Dimron said:

Belgium are standing back from sanctions as they could bankrupt their economy, Italy are cold regarding NATO-PURL, then there's Turkey and Hungary...

 

True, the EU isn't completely as one on this, neither are NATO. Still, for me Hungary should never have been allowed to join the EU and Italy should have been expelled from NATO years ago for taking the piss on military spending.

[frank_spencer]

3 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

True, the EU isn't completely as one on this, neither are NATO. Still, for me Hungary should never have been allowed to join the EU and Italy should have been expelled from NATO years ago for taking the piss on military spending.

Orban and his government are utter cunts, but if it wasn't for them being in power I'd not have made some amazing friends who escaped over here.

Edited December 8, 2025 by frank_spencer

[Cheese]

29 minutes ago, Dimron said:

Can you summarise please in your own words as I don't do Twitter/X

No.

 

[Not in Crawley]

[Sweep]

2 hours ago, Dimron said:

I don't consider myself as "European" and more than half the population voted out.

.

Like it or not, you are European, not a member of the EU, but you are European

And being picky, more than half the population didn't vote us "out" - it was actually just under 27% of the population 😉

[Dimron]

18 minutes ago, Cheese said:

No.

 

I didn't actually expect you to be able to put together a reasoned arguement on your own