Charlton Athletic (A)

[VividDreamer]

The only hope I’m holding onto is that sheff utd lost their first few games and went onto win the league, Derby last season took a while to get going. 
 

I think we’ll be fine when it all clicks, the sooner the better for evatts sake 

[RONNIE PHILLIPS]

The more I watch the 1st goal the more I can't comprehend what Santos was thinking..... There wasn't a white shirt anywhere near that of that excuse for a pass.

[waffer cup 07]

Hopefully that's the last time we ever try a midfield of two. Never going to work away from home against a strong side like Charlton.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

12 minutes ago, Zico said:

No one forced him to pass to no one, he had options either side 

 

 

He's got one on the left, but he's closed down quickly, on his right foot, and I reckon he wouldn't be confident of getting it to him.

Wider point is though, that leaving a central defender to pick passes through to a minimalist midfield is asking for trouble.

He'd be better going long, and others looking to pick up loose balls.

We had this last year, but at least one more midfielder to occupy the opposition. 

He's always the one to start things off, and it becomes predictable and easy to play against. 

When it goes to either of his defensive partners, they're no better with their passing. 

I don't think it's fair on the lad, and won't be doing his confidence any good.

As I said before, it's division 3 football, and a difficult way of playing, with opposition managers readily combating it.

The calls to sell him are unfair in that regard- could say the same about all the defenders.

[barrycowdrill]

3 games in and I’m just tired of it already. Tired of looking so impotent. Tired of the same players meandering through games making the same mistakes. Tired of there being no accountability from any of them. Tired of individuals making thick as pig shit decisions when the opposition dare have a go and not give us the respect we (as in the players) think we deserve and absolutely exhausted with the white noise now coming out of Evatt. Some players and the kit might have changed but everything else is exactly the same. Boring 

[burnden]

9 minutes ago, Krimzon said:

If you cant see that Mcatee is a player there is no hope for you 

From seeing him for other teams he has looked good .....for us so far he has ran about like a headless chicken and then shouts at nothing when he fucks up.

[Krimzon]

4 minutes ago, burnden said:

From seeing him for other teams he has looked good .....for us so far he has ran about like a headless chicken and then shouts at nothing when he fucks up.

Disagree , he played some really  nice stuff today , was working at providing . It will click . Took Collins a few months to set in too . 

 

Took Anelka 10 Games and Hierro 2 months. 

Edited August 24, 2024 by Krimzon

[Johnnyrotten]

1 hour ago, desperado said:

You can.

I don’t get this viewpoint, as if there’s a large majority who are unintelligent happy clappers, who won’t accept opinion or a negative post.

I’m about as positive as they come on here, but always with pragmatism, realism and an openness for different viewpoints and debate.

We are massively missing Maghomas influence from last season and this 3 forward line that hasn’t scored in 180 mins of football isn’t working.

Evatt has some big questions to address and needs to find answers quickly. 

I think that's the understatement of the year 😀 And that's said in a friendly/none argumentative way!  I don't think @Jol_BWFC was aiming his comment at you, probably more at those that can get aggressive/ sarcastic if any alternative view to their's is offered, those that are incapable of reasonable debate.  I think most if not all would say that's not you by a long way.  The openness for different viewpoints is the giveaway.  That doesn't mean I agree with everything you post by any means!  Long may it continue.

[Johnnyrotten]

1 hour ago, bolton in bedford said:

Evatt has been found out, press the defence and we’ll make a mistake, if we don’t, then we’re too slow to break and the opposition have loads of time to get back.

this group of players should walk this league but not with the current system which the manager is unwilling to change.

I do think we either overrate our players or underrate the opposition players at times.  I have hardly any knowledge of Huddersfield and Birmingham players for eg, why would we think our players should walk a league with teams in it we haven't seen yet?  Would our wingbacks get into any of these teams just as an eg?   

[DaveTheRave]

Poor performance.

Bad defensively.

Anonymous in midfield.

Nothing in attack.

Not a good day and need a much better performance next week before things get toxic.

[Wanderlust]

7 minutes ago, barrycowdrill said:

.... when the opposition dare have a go and not give us the respect we (as in the players) think we deserve

Touches a raw nerve with me that. I've thought for a long time we don't give the opposition enough respect - after all, there's 11 of them up against us and nobody gets bragging rights until the game is over. And who doesn't want to try their utmost to bring cocky bastards down a peg or two? We went through a period of starting really slowly - almost arrogantly - and rode our luck. Arrogance has been our downfall in the past yet it doesn't seem to change.

[barrycowdrill]

5 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

Touches a raw nerve with me that. I've thought for a long time we don't give the opposition enough respect - after all, there's 11 of them up against us and nobody gets bragging rights until the game is over. And who doesn't want to try their utmost to bring cocky bastards down a peg or two? We went through a period of starting really slowly - almost arrogantly - and rode our luck. Arrogance has been our downfall in the past yet it doesn't seem to change.

They want it all on their terms all the time and when anyone either individually or collectively stands up to them they haven’t got a fucking clue on how to deal with it. 
 

I can only imagine in training when they’re trying to play out from the back the pace at which they’re being pressed. Because when it comes to Saturday and that pace is quicker they all look around shell shocked as if they’re thinking “well this isn’t how the gaffer showed us” 

they’re all thick as mince. Been said many times on here by many people over the last couple of years and it rings truer every single day, flat track bullies. 

[captainmed]

8 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

Touches a raw nerve with me that. I've thought for a long time we don't give the opposition enough respect - after all, there's 11 of them up against us and nobody gets bragging rights until the game is over. And who doesn't want to try their utmost to bring cocky bastards down a peg or two? We went through a period of starting really slowly - almost arrogantly - and rode our luck. Arrogance has been our downfall in the past yet it doesn't seem to change.

When you have an arrogant Manager then it will obviously rub off on the players.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

12 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

I do think we either overrate our players or underrate the opposition players at times.  I have hardly any knowledge of Huddersfield and Birmingham players for eg, why would we think our players should walk a league with teams in it we haven't seen yet?  Would our wingbacks get into any of these teams just as an eg?   

Yeah, I agree

We have a good squad but "walk the league"?

Nah

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Aye. Good players and squad is meaningless if the attitude isn't right, and the set up is all to cock.

 

[gonzo]

Really can't be arsed with it all going bent at the match.

Thought of Evatt out and the probable infighting fills me dread.

Not a place I want to take my kids either. 

 

[tomski]

2 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Really can't be arsed with it all going bent at the match.

Thought of Evatt out and the probable infighting fills me dread.

Not a place I want to take my kids either. 

 

Won’t get like that. Just not the same. Megson was poison. Not close to that or McFarland before that.

Edited August 24, 2024 by tomski

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

Is it right that we've only won 5 of our last 15 in the league?

[tomski]

Just now, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Is it right that we've only won 5 of our last 15 in the league?

Someone just whatsapped me the same thing

[desperado]

1 hour ago, Jol_BWFC said:

I‘m not sure if you misinterpreted my post or me yours. But I was (am) a big fan of Maghoma. Had some disagreements with MK over it. I agree with JR’s post and the last 2 paragraphs of yours. I’ll take your word for the middle para… 😀

 

29 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

I think that's the understatement of the year 😀 And that's said in a friendly/none argumentative way!  I don't think @Jol_BWFC was aiming his comment at you, probably more at those that can get aggressive/ sarcastic if any alternative view to their's is offered, those that are incapable of reasonable debate.  I think most if not all would say that's not you by a long way.  The openness for different viewpoints is the giveaway.  That doesn't mean I agree with everything you post by any means!  Long may it continue.

Perhaps I misinterpreted then, I just thought the “you can’t say that on here” comment was a a bit generalistic.

I’d be surprised if anyone can be positive after that! 

[jmjhb]

10 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Really can't be arsed with it all going bent at the match.

Thought of Evatt out and the probable infighting fills me dread.

Not a place I want to take my kids either. 

 

A few will be sad but for many it'll be a relief. It'll quickly be forgotten when we don't have a spineless performance 

Definitely end of the era vibes so far this season. Parting of the ways should have been after the playoffs, for the benefit of both the club and Ian himself.

Edited August 24, 2024 by jmjhb

[tomski]

1 hour ago, desperado said:

You can.

I don’t get this viewpoint, as if there’s a large majority who are unintelligent happy clappers, who won’t accept opinion or a negative post.

I’m about as positive as they come on here, but always with pragmatism, realism and an openness for different viewpoints and debate.

We are massively missing Maghomas influence from last season and this 3 forward line that hasn’t scored in 180 mins of football isn’t working.

Evatt has some big questions to address and needs to find answers quickly. 

I feel more sorry for you. I was the same 10 years ago as the group positive man. It hurts a lot more when you genuinely believe.

As bad as the start has been this year no one has been promoted after 3 games. See I still have a bit in me😂

[radcliffe white]

Utter shite

So many poor individual performances

Can’t be arsed listening to that clown Evatt il keep my receipts after spunking £250

going backwards with this guy 

[tomski]

1 minute ago, radcliffe white said:

Utter shite

So many poor individual performances

Can’t be arsed listening to that clown Evatt il keep my receipts after spunking £250

going backwards with this guy 

Grim that mate. Putting the hard yards in as always.

[Popeye doyle]

Nathan Jones took over Charlton in Feb24

Michael Duff took over Huddersfield in May24

both those teams will be slugging it out for top 2.

We’ve got Evatt with his team 5 years in the making.