New Party Leaders.

[Youri McAnespie]

 

[only1swanny]

So, he's never said it?

 

 

yup..

 

Basically he worked there years ago and has since distanced himself from them and their views..

 

He voted against same sex marriage in 2013, alongside quite a few other MP's, then didn't vote the second time around..

 

Quite a few have jumped on this (as people do) with pictures of him and quoting the company he worked for, and then stating that he is some variant of villain as he voted against same sex marriage..

 

He's quite religious (Baptist) and that could be the reason why, had a Muslim/Jew/7th day advent hopist/Peoples Front of Judea.. had acted in accordance with their belief, then it wouldn't have been an issue..The fact that he didn't vote the second time around shows he knows his views don't reflect general consensus, so he stayed out of it..

 

Very much for social welform

[Youri McAnespie]

I couldn't give a fuck he's a bible-bashing homo-hater, he's Welsh ffs, yakky fucking dah, hang the cunt.

 

I won't bow before a fucking Welshman as a leader, not in this lifetime.

[Youri McAnespie]

And it's a bit rich him wanting benefit reform, as a benefits cheat himself.*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

* or tantamount to one.

Edited July 1, 2016 by Youri McAnespie

[MalcolmW]

I couldn't give a fuck he's a bible-bashing homo-hater, he's Welsh ffs, yakky fucking dah, hang the cunt.

 

I won't bow before a fucking Welshman as a leader, not in this lifetime.

 born in Inverness.

[Guest]

 born in Inverness.

 

 

North Walian bastard

[Blondi]

Very impressed with Andrea Leadsom, not so much with Gove now, especially stabbing Boris in the bollocks. May is a steady pair of hands and will probably win, but just something about Leadsom for me and she is pro brexit which should help her case.

[leigh white]

Murdoch will pick our next prime minister.

[Zico]

This man cannot lead us

 

[Sweep]

This man cannot lead us

 

I'm not sure he really wants to, I think he just wanted to make sure that Boris didn't......him standing was always going to mean Boris would withdraw, I'd not be surprised to see Gove pull out soon, back May and then get a high ranking position as the "Brexit Minister" in her cabinet.

[Guest]

Leadsom doing well, so odds on a female PM.

 

 

Here's hoping whichever she is, she's as good as the last one

[Spider]

Leadsom doing well, so odds on a female PM.

 

 

Here's hoping whichever she is, she's as good as the last one

Here here

 

A Thatch right now would sort this shit out

[RoadRunnerFan]

I'm not sure he really wants to, I think he just wanted to make sure that Boris didn't......him standing was always going to mean Boris would withdraw, I'd not be surprised to see Gove pull out soon, back May and then get a high ranking position as the "Brexit Minister" in her cabinet.

 

Gove will only back May on a cold day in hell, and vice versa.

 

They had a big fall out over the Birmingham 'Trojan Horse' schools thing. He got potted from education and she had to sack her closest aide.

[jules_darby]

Leadsom doing well, so odds on a female PM.

 

 

Here's hoping whichever she is, she's as good as the last one

I don't like that Woman at all

[kent_white]

I don't like that Woman at all

Why is that Jules? I thought she came across well in the debates - answered the questions straight that were put to her and was positive about Britain's future outside of the EU which is - I suppose - what we need at the moment.

[Blondi]

Leadsom was fantastic in the TV debates, someone was telling a very large porkie here and it wasn't Leadsom.

 

[jules_darby]

Why is that Jules? I thought she came across well in the debates - answered the questions straight that were put to her and was positive about Britain's future outside of the EU which is - I suppose - what we need at the moment.

I think she's been very hypocritical with some of her views considering what grew her career.

 

If you think Cameron got shit about his tax affairs then wait and see what she gets if she's PM too as there's miles more to go at with her

 

I also find her arrogant and aloof.

 

Not a fan of her at all. Very fitting to say she was a "Barclays Banker"

[kent_white]

I think she's been very hypocritical with some of her views considering what grew her career.

 

If you think Cameron got shit about his tax affairs then wait and see what she gets if she's PM too as there's miles more to go at with her

 

I also find her arrogant and aloof.

 

Not a fan of her at all. Very fitting to say she was a "Barclays Banker"

Fair enough - I know next to nothing about her background - just thought she spoke well. Even though she was a fan of the 'as a mother' line......!

[gonzo]

http://www.youtu.be/s7tWHJfhiyo

[bgoefc]

http://www.youtu.be/s7tWHJfhiyo

 

Interesting that. There was a chance for AV in 2011 but the Labour party took no position and the turn out was low. I think they will regret that more and more as the years roll by.

[bolty58]

This Leadsom thing about May being barren? Bad form if true and may have pissed on her chips (even if I believe that May would win comfortably anyway).

 

Is it true Leadsom is challenging the report and asking for a transcript to be made public? Twisting of words and all that?

[RoadRunnerFan]

This Leadsom thing about May being barren? Bad form if true and may have pissed on her chips (even if I believe that May would win comfortably anyway).

 

Is it true Leadsom is challenging the report and asking for a transcript to be made public? Twisting of words and all that?

 

I've heard the transcript, she doesn't have a go at May for not having children.

 

She makes the point that she feels the fact that she has children and May doesn't means she has a 'bigger stake' in the future than May. She does try to temper it by saying she's not having a go.

 

The headline is very harsh on her, I haven't read the full article.

 

She's been naive in the extreme to think it wouldn't  be spun in this sensationalist way though, even by The Times.

 

It's by no means guaranteed to harm her with the Tory traditionalists in the leadership election though.

[stevieb]

The headline is very harsh on her, I haven't read the full article.

 

 

 

Think Casino has given me permission to post full articles if we include the link, so... here you go - apologies for the formatting.

 

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/being-a-mother-gives-me-edge-on-may-leadsom-0t7bbm29x

 

Being a mother gives me edge on May — Leadsom

Tory minister says she will be better leader because childless home secretary lacks ‘stake in future’

 

Andrea Leadsom has said that being a mother makes her a better choice for prime minister than Theresa May because it means that she has “a very real stake” in the future of Britain.

In comments showing how personal she is prepared to make the Tory leadership contest, Mrs Leadsom said in an interview with The Times that the home secretary must be “really sad” not to have children.

The energy minister and underdog in the fight for No 10 declared that Mrs May “possibly has nieces, nephews, lots of people. But I have children who are going to have children who will directly be a part of what happens next.”

Mrs May, 59, and her husband, Philip, were unable to have children and she hinted of their sadness in a recent interview. Mrs Leadsom, 53, who has two sons and a daughter with her husband, Ben, said that being a mother meant that the future of Britain was more important to her. “Genuinely I feel that being a mum means you have a very real stake in the future of our country, a tangible stake.”

Mrs Leadsom made clear that she intended to highlight the difference over children in the campaign. Asked to contrast herself with Mrs May, she said: “I see myself as one, an optimist, and two, a member of a huge family and that’s important to me. My kids are a huge part of my life.”

Mrs May spoke last week about not having children. “Of course, we were both affected by it. You see friends who now have grown-up children, but you accept the hand that life deals you. Sometimes things you wish had happened don’t, or there are things you wish you’d been able to do, but can’t. There are other couples in a similar position,” she said.

Yesterday, before learning of Mrs Leadsom’s comments, she called on her opponent to fight a clean campaign and stay within “acceptable” limits of political debate.

“I have always believed that campaigns should be about real-world issues — and putting forward a positive vision for the future. The public are tired of people acting like politics is a game, so a clean campaign is what our party and the country deserve,” she said.

In her interview Mrs Leadsom conceded that the subject of Mrs May’s lack of children could be painful for her opponent, but pressed on. “I am sure Theresa will be really sad she doesn’t have children so I don’t want this to be ‘Andrea has children, Theresa hasn’t’, because I think that would be really horrible.”

However, she said that having children kept her focused. “It means you don’t want a downturn but, never mind, ten years hence it will all be fine. My children will be starting their lives in that next ten years so I have a real stake in the next year, the next two.”

She suggested motherhood meant that she had more empathy than Mrs May. “I think when you are thinking about the issues that other people have you worry about your kids’ exam results, what direction their careers are taking, what we are going to eat on Sunday.”

One MP backing Mrs May said last night: “I think these comments are disgusting. I think it’s going to insult a lot of Conservative activists as well as a lot of nice, decent people”.

Mrs Leadsom said that as soon as she became prime minister she would block new arrivals from the EU from staying permanently. “People would still be able to come here under free movement until the day we leave the EU but those people who came here under free-movement rules would then not be entitled to just remain here, to avoid that rush of people.”

She has told civil servants to prepare for the policy. “Obviously we are a sovereign state; we can do what we want but under free movement you don’t have to guarantee free movement for ever.”

Mrs Leadsom said that she was a “big fan” of grammar schools but that the system had been dismantled, could not be reintroduced and that she did not support academic selection, preferring greater streaming within schools.

She also promised to enshrine workers’ rights in law when Britain left the EU. She said that she was a fan of maternity and paternity leave, although small businesses with no more than three people needed greater help.

Mrs Leadsom said she would bring in work and study permits for EU citizens, and expected British citizens to face the same hurdle in Europe. In a move likely to disappoint business, she dismissed Britain’s future with the EU single market. “The single market is not a term that is any longer relevant . . . the single market has with it connotations of free movement and payment into the budget. However, the single market is in fact a protectionist trade zone.”

Rather than trying to copy Canada, she would take a British approach to EU relations. “We start with zero tariffs. All we need to do is continue as before.”

Mrs Leadsom said late last night that she had not intended to suggest that Mrs May’s lack of children would have any impact on her job.

[deane koontz]

Murdoch will pick our next prime minister.

 

He most certainly will.

[bgoefc]

I've heard the transcript, she doesn't have a go at May for not having children.

 

She makes the point that she feels the fact that she has children and May doesn't means she has a 'bigger stake' in the future than May. She does try to temper it by saying she's not having a go.

 

The headline is very harsh on her, I haven't read the full article.

 

She's been naive in the extreme to think it wouldn't  be spun in this sensationalist way though, even by The Times.

 

It's by no means guaranteed to harm her with the Tory traditionalists in the leadership election though.

 

This is where I am at. She made a mistake she didn't have to as to my mind as I think the blue rinse brigade like her.

 

However, in her own mind she see's herself as being far behind May due to the number of MP's who voted for May. She tried to spin the family angle very ham fisted.

 

I'm still with her as I feel her EU experience between 2011 and 2014 will stand her in good stead in the tough negotiations ahead, but she cannot put her foot in it again.