Transfer Gossip

[Wanderlust]

5 minutes ago, Zog1 said:

We 21 goals from set pieces of which 1 was a direct free kick, 7 were penalties, another half-dozen were indirect free kick goals where the scorer got a tap in or a header. Our shot number from seat pieces is near the bottom of the league. Many of those goals come against the lower teams too. We're not retaining the ball after our set pieces.

..because nobody is lurking on the edge of the box to pick up the headers out. Same when we defend FKs and corners - nobody there to pick up the half-clearance.

[Zog1]

2 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

..because nobody is lurking on the edge of the box to pick up the headers out. Same when we defend FKs and corners - nobody there to pick up the half-clearance.

Exactly and honestly that's just part of it, how many times last season did you see the usual suspects get bullied off throw ins.

[nantwichwhite]

Used to be standard procedure. Post a man within the D, just marking space, its surprising how many clearances or loose balls land there, same when defending too. I can remember at least two goals against with an unmarked man at the edge of the box shooting within that space.

[Wanderlust]

40 minutes ago, nantwichwhite said:

Used to be standard procedure. Post a man within the D, just marking space, its surprising how many clearances or loose balls land there, same when defending too. I can remember at least two goals against with an unmarked man at the edge of the box shooting within that space.

Pet peeve of mine - drove me bonkers last season. Eventually I gave up hoping for a player on the edge of the box to pick up the pieces - at either end.

[ZiggyStardust]

1 hour ago, Zog1 said:

We 21 goals from set pieces of which 1 was a direct free kick, 7 were penalties, another half-dozen were indirect free kick goals where the scorer got a tap in or a header. Our shot number from seat pieces is near the bottom of the league. Many of those goals come against the lower teams too. We're not retaining the ball after our set pieces.

is that because 21 times the opposition was taking a kick off ?

[Zog1]

Lack of strength played a key part in our defeat to Oxford. Their first goal is due to Gethin losing his player, Sheehan in a poor position then goes to press, it's too late and the player passes. Sheehan then doesn't continue to press the new player and just allows the ball to drop after a bad first touch. Their player with no challange to their pass or their visibility puts in a good ball. Cogley then gets easily bullied off the ball and then due to more poor defending the only other player in positon to press is Paris because there are 3 players marking their no.9.

Their second goal, poor touch from Paris, Sheehan then leaves the ball for Paris to chase down for some reason even though he's in a much better position, Paris then misses the ball and Santos can't overpower their no9 to win a basic header. Somehow the ball gets back to Paris from that header, he tries to do some skill and is then overpowered by 2 of their players, again nobody presses and their player puts in a great ball. 

Oxford had a bit of strength thoughout their team, we don't have to do it that way we just need someone...just 1 player in our midfield who has strength and will press. Unless we sign this player or players we're going to get battered this year. 

My hot takes: Thomason and Santos don't suit the way we play and Sheehan is overrated.

 

[Dr. Feelgood]

1 hour ago, nantwichwhite said:

Used to be standard procedure. Post a man within the D, just marking space, its surprising how many clearances or loose balls land there ...

My footballing days are long ago but, based on the fact that I never won a header in my life, this is where I lurked. I scored a fair few & lumped the ball into 'the mixer' often.

[Wanderlust]

7 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

My footballing days are long ago but, based on the fact that I never won a header in my life, this is where I lurked. I scored a fair few & lumped the ball into 'the mixer' often.

Mate - I'm fucking ancient, still play footie twice a week and if the ball comes to me at the edge of the box I'm having a dig regardless of how crowded the box is. As long as I keep it down and on target it has every chance of going in whether directly or via a deflection. Statistically the right thing to do.

Conversely in defence I know that one of theirs would do the same so it has to be stopped. It ain't fucking rocket science.

But somehow this seems to bypass BWFC with all the technology and analysis.

All this bollocks about counting corners and fans getting excited about corners - how often do teams actually score from corners? 1 in 30? Certainly not as often as folk having a shot from directly in front of the goal that's for sure.

 

[Wanderlust]

Evans gone to Huddersfield?

Randall deal off?

It's all not happening

[Blondi]

6 hours ago, Wanderlust said:

Evans gone to Huddersfield?

Randall deal off?

It's all not happening

We'll be signing that Paris lad, nowt to worry about.

[Rizlar]

8 hours ago, Zog1 said:

Lack of strength played a key part in our defeat to Oxford. Their first goal is due to Gethin losing his player, Sheehan in a poor position then goes to press, it's too late and the player passes. Sheehan then doesn't continue to press the new player and just allows the ball to drop after a bad first touch. Their player with no challange to their pass or their visibility puts in a good ball. Cogley then gets easily bullied off the ball and then due to more poor defending the only other player in positon to press is Paris because there are 3 players marking their no.9.

Their second goal, poor touch from Paris, Sheehan then leaves the ball for Paris to chase down for some reason even though he's in a much better position, Paris then misses the ball and Santos can't overpower their no9 to win a basic header. Somehow the ball gets back to Paris from that header, he tries to do some skill and is then overpowered by 2 of their players, again nobody presses and their player puts in a great ball. 

Oxford had a bit of strength thoughout their team, we don't have to do it that way we just need someone...just 1 player in our midfield who has strength and will press. Unless we sign this player or players we're going to get battered this year. 

My hot takes: Thomason and Santos don't suit the way we play and Sheehan is overrated.

 

Most of us are of the same opinion our midfield is weak and we need a couple of stronger midfielders but does IE see this I am not sure atm.

[Whitesince63]

19 minutes ago, Rizlar said:

Most of us are of the same opinion our midfield is weak and we need a couple of stronger midfielders but does IE see this I am not sure atm.

We’ll obviously not if speculation is true that he wants Paris back.

[Rizlar]

12 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said:

We’ll obviously not if speculation is true that he wants Paris back.

Paris is bang average and also can’t tackle !

[DazBob]

Maghoma would be an outstanding signing.  Far better than anyone else we could dream of realistically signing.

[Mounts Kipper]

13 minutes ago, DazBob said:

Maghoma would be an outstanding signing.  Far better than anyone else we could dream of realistically signing.

Joel Randall has more goals and assists than Maghoma with less minutes on the pitch, think he’s another non tackler though, if we’re going to go with this type we need a minder in midfield, unless Dempsey can do that job, one thing for sure a midfield with Sheehan, Maghoma or Randall doesn’t look physically strong enough to me. 

[Zico]

10 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Joel Randall has more goals and assists than Maghoma with less minutes on the pitch, think he’s another non tackler though, if we’re going to go with this type we need a minder in midfield, unless Dempsey can do that job, one thing for sure a midfield with Sheehan, Maghoma or Randall doesn’t look physically strong enough to me. 

I agree, we need a Magohma/Randall AND a tackler and I'll be very dissapointed if that doesn't happen (not specifically those players, but those type of players)

[Casino]

we did not fail to beat oxford cos we lacked a tackler ffs

we lost cos we had no idea how to create owt

[Mounts Kipper]

12 minutes ago, Casino said:

we did not fail to beat oxford cos we lacked a tackler ffs

we lost cos we had no idea how to create owt

But that’s one game, we need both types, that’s if we can’t find a creative type who ain’t scared of putting a foot in….What’s John Sheridan doing these days. 🤣

[Zico]

20 minutes ago, Casino said:

we did not fail to beat oxford cos we lacked a tackler ffs

we lost cos we had no idea how to create owt

yeah I wouldn't focus on one game

we failed to beat them because our game plan went out the window because of their game plan, like it did so many other times last season

that's tactical as much as it is about players

plus Sheehan and AN Other will have a better chance of creating if they've got someone to protect them and let them play

[JimmyRiddle]

I just want a new Per Frandsen, why can't midfielders not do a bit of everything anymore??

[radcliffe white]

Don’t exist anymore apparently 

[ZiggyStardust]

Just now, radcliffe white said:

Don’t exist anymore apparently 

Not in our price range they dont.

[radcliffe white]

Just now, ZiggyStardust said:

Not in our price range they dont.

I don’t think price is the issue

don't fit the model 

[Big E]

1 hour ago, DazBob said:

Maghoma would be an outstanding signing.  Far better than anyone else we could dream of realistically signing.

Is he though. Soft and little end product. Be better with big CJ 

[Dr. Feelgood]

It's a footballing philosophy thing. Exactly like Southgate, Evatt cannot accept the need for rough & tumble. He tries to play the pure game. Offer him peak Paul Scholes & he'd try to make him a wing-back.

WE all know it. I think HE knows it, but on that list of requirements in his pocket, 'tough ball winning midfielder' isn't there. If he stumbles upon one via his original priorities that will be luck, not judgement.

We came 3rd last year & really blew our opportunities. Why would he think he needs to rip it all up ?*

 

*my answer is that we got found out with that style & will even more so this year.