Members bolty58 Posted March 23, 2017 Members Share Posted March 23, 2017 The deputy acting Commissioner of Police, in his first press conference at the scene of the crime, is placing a very high priority on 'assisting our Islamic community who will be feeling very vulnerable right now'. God forbid that a hijab or niqab wearer should suffer a dirty look or similar. Five families are suffering terribly today after learning of the death of a loved one and forty odd other families are suffering to a lesser extent (some of whom may even be Islamic). Gut wrenching stuff when they were all just innocently going about their everyday business. Forgive me if I concentrate on the latter and not give a thought to the former for a day or so. Fair play to the Lord Mayor though whose words were far more appropriate IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 The linked article refers to them as stray dogs rather than lone wolves just because lone wolves sound exciting. These folks are nutters who are being exploited by slightly cleverer nutters. The point about not branding all muslims is pretty simple. It is the idea that muslims are deemed second class around the world. If we do not differentiate between the nutters and the totally decent vast majority you simply give the clever nutters more material to encourage the thick nutters to commit acts like this. If in the eyes of the people on the front line fighting these bastards not referring to them as Muslim terrorists and acknowledging the wider Muslim community is the right thing to do I am prepared to go with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffs Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 When there's zillions of Muslims who treat there own as second class citizens, like wimmin homosexuals for example, then they can't really expect much sympathy from those who are not stuck in the stone age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted March 23, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted March 23, 2017 The linked article refers to them as stray dogs rather than lone wolves just because lone wolves sound exciting. These folks are nutters who are being exploited by slightly cleverer nutters. The point about not branding all muslims is pretty simple. It is the idea that muslims are deemed second class around the world. If we do not differentiate between the nutters and the totally decent vast majority you simply give the clever nutters more material to encourage the thick nutters to commit acts like this. If in the eyes of the people on the front line fighting these bastards not referring to them as Muslim terrorists and acknowledging the wider Muslim community is the right thing to do I am prepared to go with that. I don't think anyone with any level of education will label ALL Muslims as terrorists. I think, though, that if there are radical Muslims clever enough to convince and brainwash others into committing such atrocities then there are at least as many mainstream Muslims able to convince the same folk that their actions are not acceptable. Where are these mainstream Muslims? It could be that they are doing their bit to re-educate those who have become radicalised but too many are slipping the net; and I don't just mean the ones who are successful in carrying out their planned attacks, I'm talking also about the many who are foiled by the anti-terror departments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted March 23, 2017 Moderators Share Posted March 23, 2017 Is every murder by a whitey you fault Every rape by a whitey Every mugging of some old dear by a whitey Why didn't you stop it, what are you doing to prevent further wrong doing by your community I'd hazard a guess there's plenty Muslims doing far more than you are to keep us all safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 (edited) What really pisses me off is the Policeman guarding parliament was not armed that is mental, in no other country would that happen and because of this a wife and family have lost their Husband and Dad feel so sorry for them it is gut wrenching. RIP Fella. Edited March 23, 2017 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I don't think anyone with any level of education will label ALL Muslims as terrorists. I think, though, that if there are radical Muslims clever enough to convince and brainwash others into committing such atrocities then there are at least as many mainstream Muslims able to convince the same folk that their actions are not acceptable. Where are these mainstream Muslims? It could be that they are doing their bit to re-educate those who have become radicalised but too many are slipping the net; and I don't just mean the ones who are successful in carrying out their planned attacks, I'm talking also about the many who are foiled by the anti-terror departments. I get your point and like many wonder what is going on we do not see. But let's say a young lad is being radicalised pretty sure his head is being filled with anti western thoughts is someone who is part of some high profile government supported re education task force going to be seen as a neutral voice or just the mouth piece of the enemy? I also get Smiths point on the nature of the religion but you could argue the same about the Catholic Church suppressing child abuse charges attitude to homosexuals and women clergy. IMO all religion is divisive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Latham8WFC Posted March 23, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted March 23, 2017 Completely agree especially at places such as The Houses of Parliament. Doesn't have to be an MP5 or whatever the armed Police have, they could quite easily carry a sidearm if they wanted to continue the friendly approachable Police policy. I don't think the local rural plod need to carry firearms though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted March 23, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted March 23, 2017 Is every murder by a whitey you fault Every rape by a whitey Every mugging of some old dear by a whitey Why didn't you stop it, what are you doing to prevent further wrong doing by your community I'd hazard a guess there's plenty Muslims doing far more than you are to keep us all safe I have had cause to ring the terrorist hotline previously so I'm certainly doing my bit. If I suspected my neighbour was involved in any of the crimes you have listed then yes, of course I'd be saying something. What really pisses me off is the Policeman guarding parliament was not armed that is mental, in no other country would that happen and because of this a wife and family have lost their Husband and Dad feel so sorry for them it is gut wrenching. RIP Fella. I wouldn't imagine the assailant would have made his attack from the front in order to give the policeman time to defend himself. It'll have done in the most cowardly way possible by sneaking up on the blindside. No amount of weaponry was going to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted March 23, 2017 Moderators Share Posted March 23, 2017 Indeed, Michael Yet those crimes still occur So, are YOU doing enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Don't all terrorists have beards? Should we be keeping a closer eye on those with beards as well now? Will do some fishing around at my brother's house next time I'm around, make sure he's not got a secret bomb factory on the go in the back bedroom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 No surprise to hear he was known to authorities. How many are walking amongst us? It's quite depressing when you think they're allowed hate all this country stands for because of what this country stands for. We can't even send some of these buggers back because they're 'British'. I use the '' because there's areas of this country that are far from the country we know. It's time we stopped allowing people to live parallel lives here. It's a sad fucking world at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 So another attacker was known by security officials Is this a case of red tape and that hands are tied with the courts etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffs Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Indeed, Michael Yet those crimes still occur So, are YOU doing enough The Muslim councils twitter clearly feed is more concerned with employers sacking people for wearing religious clothing than supporting Muslims and the British community. Some half baked statement doesn't cut it for me. Equally the spineless social worker whitey folk prefer we unite against racism rather than showing any kind of concern for the victims or the affect on UK society of these atrocities. Not a single word. As long as we have these yellow bellied wankers in our community blaming everyone else but the evil bastards carrying out terrorist atrocities, nothing will improve. Hate breeds hate but there's a fucking big elephant in the room and there's too many people frightened to deal with it incase it upsets someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little whitt Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 What really pisses me off is the Policeman guarding parliament was not armed that is mental, in no other country would that happen and because of this a wife and family have lost their Husband and Dad feel so sorry for them it is gut wrenching. RIP Fella. i was thinking the same but you have them on the outside gate for the OLD BOBBY look for the Tourist I think inside gate are the lads with guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 23, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted March 23, 2017 Named the terrorist. A 52 year old with a record fr violence. Usually imagine fairly young blokes as being perpetrators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 The policeman was ex military and serves in the parliamentary / diplomatic force I'm surprised he wasn't armed in all honesty, you'd have thought that he was recruited for his military background / training. Perhaps he sometimes patrols with guns and sometimes without dependant on duties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Latham8WFC Posted March 23, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted March 23, 2017 The man police believe to be responsible for the terrorist attack in Westminster has been formally identified as Khalid Masood, Scotland Yard says.Masood, aged 52, was born in Kent and detectives believe he was most recently living in the West Midlands.Masood was not the subject of any current investigations and there was no prior intelligence about his intent to mount a terroristattack, police say.However, he was known to the police and had a range of previous convictions for assaults, including GBH, possession of offensive weapons and public order offences.He has not been convicted of any terrorism offences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Puts to bed the open borders ticking bomb bollocks then on this occasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DazBob Posted March 23, 2017 Members Share Posted March 23, 2017 Fear not, I'm sure some mongos will find a link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted March 23, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted March 23, 2017 So, lone wolf with a grudge against the congestion charge then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 So another attacker was known by security officials Is this a case of red tape and that hands are tied with the courts etc? He was known but not for raygun/terrorist type stuff. He'd never been involved anything religion related. His stuff was all violence related apparently.....so obviously a real charmer. We can't blame our security forces on this occasion really for "not picking him up" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtySanchez Posted March 23, 2017 Members Share Posted March 23, 2017 Just watching the copper in charge He pretty much says stop speculating and stop asking questions as it will only hamper our work So they carry on asking questions...stfu! It didn't stop channel 4 news wrongly announcing his so called real name Despite that person being in jail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Another of the injured has died (75 y-o man). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little whitt Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 all from that Burmingham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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