Corona Football Season

[Farnywhite]

3 hours ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

Daily Mail  - EFL players have been told in the last 24 hours that, despite plans to resume training in May, there is very little expectation at EFL level of any football being played in June. In terms of supporters, they are not expected back in EFL stadiums until next January at the earliest.

Supporters not being let in till January ? How can EFL teams be expected to play games sign players and pay wages with no revenue can’t work might as well call next season off and start it in th new year 

[DomRepWanderer]

8 minutes ago, Farnywhite said:

Supporters not being let in till January ? How can EFL teams be expected to play games sign players and pay wages with no revenue can’t work might as well call next season off and start it in th new year 

For one season only, they could start in January with regionalised leagues of 12 teams in each, and play it out over 4 months, cut a cup comp out, and finish early June, start up early September.

[Farnywhite]

58 minutes ago, DomRepWanderer said:

For one season only, they could start in January with regionalised leagues of 12 teams in each, and play it out over 4 months, cut a cup comp out, and finish early June, start up early September.

Could see that as a option but still leaves the problem of massive revenue cuts . clubs   would have to get to January then only a four month season to get money in  missing out on Xmas fixtures can’t see us lasting that long with the over heads of the stadium and many other teams will be in the same boat it’s a mess 

[kent_white]

Quick straw poll - say the club were saying no games until January - but asked season ticket holders to keep paying their subs - who would cancel their DD?

I know I wouldn't - but I'm in a fortunate position to still be working. 

[Casino]

5 minutes ago, Farnywhite said:

Could see that as a option but still leaves the problem of massive revenue cuts . clubs   would have to get to January then only a four month season to get money in  missing out on Xmas fixtures can’t see us lasting that long with the over heads of the stadium and many other teams will be in the same boat it’s a mess 

I am optimistic the hotel is currently paying for itself

We have 6 players

If stadium can just be mothballed, we may be in a better place than most

[Casino]

Just now, kent_white said:

Quick straw poll - say the club were saying no games until January - but asked season ticket holders to keep paying their subs - who would cancel their DD?

I know I wouldn't - but I'm in a fortunate position to still be working. 

I'd be in, but many won't be able to

[Benny The Ball]

1 hour ago, DomRepWanderer said:

For one season only, they could start in January with regionalised leagues of 12 teams in each, and play it out over 4 months, cut a cup comp out, and finish early June, start up early September.

 

7 minutes ago, Farnywhite said:

Could see that as a option but still leaves the problem of massive revenue cuts . clubs   would have to get to January then only a four month season to get money in  missing out on Xmas fixtures can’t see us lasting that long with the over heads of the stadium and many other teams will be in the same boat it’s a mess 

If they can get over the financial and contractual hurdles,  surely it starts to make more sense to play this seasons outstanding games in the period of 2021 when we are allowed back into stadiums and call it the 2019-2021 season 

At a stroke you get over all these discussions about how you end this season and how you run a shortened season next , and avoid the need for behind closed door games 

[DomRepWanderer]

3 minutes ago, Benny The Ball said:

 

If they can get over the financial and contractual hurdles,  surely it starts to make more sense to play this seasons outstanding games in the period of 2021 when we are allowed back into stadiums and call it the 2019-2021 season 

At a stroke you get over all these discussions about how you end this season and how you run a shortened season next , and avoid the need for behind closed door games 

Problem with that is The Euros in June, and if we finish this season next year there won't be time to start a new season, you effectively  could be talking up to 9 months without any income, wouldn't work, makes more sense just to pot this season

 

[Casino]

13 minutes ago, DomRepWanderer said:

Problem with that is The Euros in June, and if we finish this season next year there won't be time to start a new season, you effectively  could be talking up to 9 months without any income, wouldn't work, makes more sense just to pot this season

 

Whenever we start again, we will have a window to play x number of games. Doesn't matter what season they are classed as

So, if we play the last 10 of 19/20 Or play a 10 games 21 season matters not one jot

For me, the best option remains deciding on the efl when we know if we can start again

Only fly in the ointment is if the prem starts up first as I expect it to

That forces a decision on promotion and relegation between prem and the second tier being made before whenever prem sorts ITS next season

[Ani]

35 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Quick straw poll - say the club were saying no games until January - but asked season ticket holders to keep paying their subs - who would cancel their DD?

I know I wouldn't - but I'm in a fortunate position to still be working. 

If the clubs start playing games behind closed doors when it is clearly not safe. I will cancel my DD. IMO football clubs need to be really careful not alienate a lot of people. The idea that the so-called integrity of the competition should come before people’s lives will bite them in the arse. 

[Steejay]

If there’s any games behind closed doors, it’ll just be the Premier league. PPV.

Nobody else can afford it.

 

EFL should grow some balls for once and pull the season. 
 

Voiding the season is the only answer.

[Matt Lofthouse]

2 hours ago, kent_white said:

Quick straw poll - say the club were saying no games until January - but asked season ticket holders to keep paying their subs - who would cancel their DD?

I know I wouldn't - but I'm in a fortunate position to still be working. 

Whilst I’m furloughed if it’s a choice of paying my bills and mortgage or a footballers the direct debit will be getting cancelled. Moot point anyway as I believe the last dd payment was the beginning of this month. Auto renew is another matter. 

[Farnywhite]

There are more problems than answers playing this season think the only answer is to bin it .  if it’s extended then you have the problem that most lower leagues have players on 12 month deals and won’t have a team to field or a totally different starting eleven 

 If you start in June play behind closed doors and televise the matches on Ifollow then the revenue will still be down one person will pay for it and have a house full of people round . Can’t see how any of it can work 

 

[Johnnyrotten]

1 hour ago, Ani said:

If the clubs start playing games behind closed doors when it is clearly not safe. I will cancel my DD. IMO football clubs need to be really careful not alienate a lot of people. The idea that the so-called integrity of the competition should come before people’s lives will bite them in the arse. 

We shouldnt punish BWFC for doing as they are told, the players wont want to play before its safe any more than you or I.  Are you expecting them to refuse to play?  We've got previous for that and I hope they dont go down that road again.

[Johnnyrotten]

1 hour ago, Casino said:

Whenever we start again, we will have a window to play x number of games. Doesn't matter what season they are classed as

So, if we play the last 10 of 19/20 Or play a 10 games 21 season matters not one jot

For me, the best option remains deciding on the efl when we know if we can start again

Only fly in the ointment is if the prem starts up first as I expect it to

That forces a decision on promotion and relegation between prem and the second tier being made before whenever prem sorts ITS next season

But surely for financial reasons, and to give us lower league clubs a fighting chance of survival, we need to be selling tickets in good numbers.  Which means selling season tickets as soon as its practical to do so.  That cant happen if 2 or 3 months is wasted playing the last dozen games with next to no income especially for those of us with nothing to play for.

[Johnnyrotten]

2 hours ago, kent_white said:

Quick straw poll - say the club were saying no games until January - but asked season ticket holders to keep paying their subs - who would cancel their DD?

I know I wouldn't - but I'm in a fortunate position to still be working. 

This could only realistically work if we were asked to buy a season ticket for the next season, whenever it starts.  Nobody's going to pay £50 a month for nothing.  They could even set up direct debits over about 15 months instead of 10 months, and that would make it more affordable for many that would be borderline.  It would also help if they could find a way to waive the £20 or whatever it was to pay by D/D, on principle and to encourage take-up.  Not many are going to pay £400 up front with no games for a year.  Another factor is teams can only start to sell S/Ts when they at least know 1. what division they'll be in and 2. how many home games there will be.  So its a while before all that is finalised.

[jeep]

This season has to be finished eventually due to the integrity.

When it's finished is anyone's guess!

My opinion is that there'll be no football played in front of crowds in 2020.

Unless a vaccine is created...

In my mind I'd be looking to write off 2020-21 season, or at best truncated.....

[Casino]

20 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

But surely for financial reasons, and to give us lower league clubs a fighting chance of survival, we need to be selling tickets in good numbers.  Which means selling season tickets as soon as its practical to do so.  That cant happen if 2 or 3 months is wasted playing the last dozen games with next to no income especially for those of us with nothing to play for.

Theres not going to be many teams with nowt to play for, though

Fwiw, im happy it gets scrapped at 9am tomorrow

But dont kid yourself what we do will be decided by bwfc, or the efl

The prem will decide as they control the money

[deane koontz]

Pre season for the remainder of 19/20 season in January 2021 👀

[Rudy]

Word is if any player tests positive it scuppers the entire plan 

[Marc505]

2 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

We shouldnt punish BWFC for doing as they are told, the players wont want to play before its safe any more than you or I.  Are you expecting them to refuse to play?  We've got previous for that and I hope they dont go down that road again.

I can bet after Emma Beaugeard's sad bereavement due to the virus that very few at the top of the club are keen to play until its absolutely safe to also, let alone the players. We've probably made these plans to play behind closed doors really begrudgingly.

I like others in a position to do so though would pay up front, no question.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Anyone just see Hugh Pim's report?

According to estimates, at the moment, allowing mass gatherings would add 0.5 to the R value.

In other words, forget football for a while.

I'm not a fan of behind closed doors at all, but it might be a solution for the season, though surely players would need to be isolated beforehand/afterwards?

[bwfc2003]

How the fcuk do they think that thousands of scousers will stay at home when they win the PL and not congregate at Anfield??

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

2 hours ago, jeep said:

This season has to be finished eventually due to the integrity.

When it's finished is anyone's guess!

My opinion is that there'll be no football played in front of crowds in 2020.

Unless a vaccine is created...

In my mind I'd be looking to write off 2020-21 season, or at best truncated.....

I doubt it can be truncated because broadcasting rights contracts will have been signed stipulating a certain amount of matches per broadcaster.

[Johnnyrotten]

24 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Anyone just see Hugh Pim's report?

According to estimates, at the moment, allowing mass gatherings would add 0.5 to the R value.

In other words, forget football for a while.

I'm not a fan of behind closed doors at all, but it might be a solution for the season, though surely players would need to be isolated beforehand/afterwards?

It doesnt take a genius to work out that any gatherings, mass or otherwise, increases the number of infections, its just a fact.  We know that public sporting events arent going to restart until a vaccine is sorted.  Nobody knows when that will be so speculating is fairly pointless.