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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Ani said:

What message does it send on social distancing if you allow football to restart ? People will get together to watch games as if the games are on it can not be that bad can it ? Lads will start playing parks etc etc  

It is not about 22 players, how about coaches ? Physios ? 
 

Do you think under the circumstances and with the various restrictions mentioned the league should restart ? You say it will be a vastly inferior product. Let’s assume no relegation what is the point ? 

I’m not sure it should re start, I just don’t think health and safety is the biggest issue. I understand why the clubs want it to, without the TV revenue coming in a lot of clubs, including the big ones are looking into the abyss. Wages take up a big proportion of revenue, unless wages are reduced in line with revenue a lot of clubs could go under, even in the PL 

This is why they are trying to do whatever they can. I just don’t think that behind closed doors for a prolonged period of time wont generate enough revenue so either way it’s coming to a head at some point between players and clubs 

Edited by birch-chorley
Posted
4 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

Rick parry has said the efl face a 200m financial hole by the end of September 

Also said that games can finish no later than end of July, can't see how they can achieve this in a safe and normal way.

Posted
1 minute ago, DomRepWanderer said:

Also said that games can finish no later than end of July, can't see how they can achieve this in a safe and normal way.

Can’t remember how many days they said needed to complete season was it 50?

time is ticking 

Posted
30 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

Can’t remember how many days they said needed to complete season was it 50?

time is ticking 

I don't know how many days, but to get it all done and dusted by end of July, including FA cup games, play off games etc, I can't see how it can be done.

Posted
33 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

Can’t remember how many days they said needed to complete season was it 50?

time is ticking 

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Posted
4 hours ago, birch-chorley said:

I’m saying that professional football starting up doesn’t pose a significant risk for the country, you have 22 players on a pitch at 10 grounds across the country playing, so 220 in total (rest of the staff can keep distance) - that will have no negative impact on the countries R value.
 

Sending tens of thousands of kids back to school, whilst also lower risk than some things, would be significantly higher risk for the countries R value. Individual risk for the footballers yes, no more so than many other workers like shop workers etc. At the end of the day if the players don’t want to play then fair enough, however they shouldn’t expect to be paid as per their contract. I don’t think the biggest issue that the PL has is risk, I think it’s a vastly inferior product that people won’t want to pay for (certainly the rest of this season). Sky and BT won’t want to be paying the same rate if they can’t sell the product onto an audience at the same rate, that will have the biggest impact here IMO 

Why won’t it work down the pyramid? Finances, the smaller clubs rely on gate receipts to stay afloat, the PL can operate without that money - what’s the point playing behind closed doors if it sends you under? might as well hibernate with a vastly reduced squad to pay (50% of league 1 & 2 players contracts are up next month) then get going when the turnstiles are open 

I’d like a big fall out between sky/BT and football to be honest.

Posted (edited)

I reckon you could finish in 4 weeks.

Sat
Tues/Wed
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Posted
8 minutes ago, tomski said:

I’d like a big fall out between sky/BT and football to be honest.

I would normally.  I'd love it TBH.  But this isnt normal, and if Prem lose money on their TV deal, you can bet the amount they give to EFL clubs will be hugely reduced, it will be the excuse some of them need (I'm not going to tar everyone with same brush as some do care about the EFL/grass roots).  For the sake of BWFC and other EFL clubs, we need the Prem to get all the Sky cash in the short term at least.

Posted
28 minutes ago, tomski said:

I’d like a big fall out between sky/BT and football to be honest.


I don’t know about fall out, they need each other at the end of the day. If the revenue coming into Sky and BT drops off a cliff due to this act of god event then it’s only fair the clubs and players share that pain. Would it really be that bad for the average PL weekly salary going from £60k a week to £30k for 18 months or so until it’s over? 

The question is, how many Sky and BT Sport subscriptions get canned when they start charging again, the majority won’t be happy shelling out £60 a month for friendly standard football. Advertising revenue also gone through the floor as big firms pull back on media to preserve cash 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, victor meldrew said:

why not get one player from each club to play fifa on the x box, results stand in all divisions

Was going to post the same except i was thinking about subbuteo

Posted

No headers, no throw ins without gloves, long sleeves, long pants, face masks, no contact, no team goal celebrations, no whistle for the referee in case spit comes out of it. 

They'll be frantically trying to renew their Sky Sports subscriptions for that.

Posted

If they make League 1 to finish their games then Bolton should get rid of every player they can at the of June; if this means we can only turn out a bunch of kids then so be it.

It is ridiculous to consider finishing this season and anything more than Null and Void is unfair

Posted

Ok it’s scenario time.

Football restarts. Relegation comes into place, 3 teams go down. Who comes up?

How do they decide who comes up? 
How do they reopen the EFL with no fans when clubs depend on gate revenue. 
 

Football restarts. 
Relegation doesn’t happen. 
No teams have anything really to play for, so they’re risking players and staff for no reason.

Leeds, West Brom, Fulham have spent a lot of money trying to go up and that will be for nothing. 
 

Football restarts in another country.

All the people coming back would they have to spend two weeks in quarantine?

Posted

Everyone will always look after themselves and to that end I don’t imagine a solution that works for all being mapped out 

award the scousers the title with a big fucking asterisk at the side of it so everyone call always say they never actually won it. Then, 

Euro spots given to teams currently in those positions 


no relegations

teams currently in the auto promotion places get Promoted 

then 5 relegation spots next year (6 in L1 to L2) 

appeases the teams concerned about relegation & promotion. Yes there will then be teams who complain they could’ve gone up through the play offs but equally they may not have done. Cannot make every team with their own agendas happy here 

re: tv revenue, this PL season is a dead duck. Whose really arsed about watching who goes down? Hardly must see drama. 
 

games sky & BT are missing spread over the remainder of their current contract when they could actually benefit from closer title challenges etc. 
 

doesn’t appear any fans will be in the ground until next year so god knows the implications to lower league clubs and what the solution to that is. That’s another issue but this season needs drawing down

Posted

Roger will be delighted if it's canned now

Liverpool's first title in 30 years is awarded by default and Utd nick City's CL spot

 

 

Posted

I thought this was quite amusing and unless I have missed something not seen it mentioned on here - 

If games are played behind closed doors I can see some clubs here copying and cashing in on what Borussia Monchengladbach fans have done 

You can now pay to have a cardboard cut out of yourself put in the stadium for 19 Euros 

Apparently 10000 fans have so far signed up ... 

Pictures of fans, players, coaches and staff of Bundesliga club Borussia Mönchengladbach are seen at Borussia-Park in Mönchengladbach, Germany, on April 28, 2020.

 

There is a link below that explains and that in turn leads to the application 

https://time.com/5828699/soccer-cardboard-cutouts/

Could see this catching on ... thinking about it you could even put deceased relatives cut outs in the ground 

Put a bit of background noise over the tannoys ... would anyone watching on sky really look that closely  ? 

 

Posted
5 minutes ago, Benny The Ball said:

I thought this was quite amusing and unless I have missed something not seen it mentioned on here - 

If games are played behind closed doors I can see some clubs here copying and cashing in on what Borussia Monchengladbach fans have done 

You can now pay to have a cardboard cut out of yourself put in the stadium for 19 Euros 

Apparently 10000 fans have so far signed up ... 

Pictures of fans, players, coaches and staff of Bundesliga club Borussia Mönchengladbach are seen at Borussia-Park in Mönchengladbach, Germany, on April 28, 2020.

 

There is a link below that explains and that in turn leads to the application 

https://time.com/5828699/soccer-cardboard-cutouts/

Could see this catching on ... thinking about it you could even put deceased relatives cut outs in the ground 

Put a bit of background noise over the tannoys ... would anyone watching on sky really look that closely  ? 

 

third row from bottom left looks like carlos.

like when he did his solo tour of Portuguese stadiums in 2008

Posted
1 hour ago, RUREADY2ROLL said:

If they make League 1 to finish their games then Bolton should get rid of every player they can at the of June; if this means we can only turn out a bunch of kids then so be it.

It is ridiculous to consider finishing this season and anything more than Null and Void is unfair

For once we arent the team with the most worries, we can only gain from this from a relegation/promotion point of view. L If this was either 2 or 3 years ago, we would have a sweat on and we would have had to keep on paying everyone for however long it took to get the games finished, if they had been.  We just couldnt afford any let up, not so now, who cares if we lose 6-0 every week.  If we'd been 2nd in Div 1 and they'd canned the season with about 10 games when we were scoring 4 at Gillingham and Oxford etc, we would have been fuming.  Let the battle commence, on or off the field, and we wont be part of it.

Posted
3 hours ago, birch-chorley said:


I don’t know about fall out, they need each other at the end of the day. If the revenue coming into Sky and BT drops off a cliff due to this act of god event then it’s only fair the clubs and players share that pain. Would it really be that bad for the average PL weekly salary going from £60k a week to £30k for 18 months or so until it’s over? 

The question is, how many Sky and BT Sport subscriptions get canned when they start charging again, the majority won’t be happy shelling out £60 a month for friendly standard football. Advertising revenue also gone through the floor as big firms pull back on media to preserve cash 

 

Honestly I’d not mind. I’d understand that the standard would drop and what not but Sat 3pm one league game a week would do me as a match goer. Fans and players closer together again. Clubs needing or understanding they need fans. 
 

Might be simplistic and nostalgic but I’d take it.

Agree on subscriptions. It amazes me they are pushing for season end and they’ve not just asked for their money back this season. 

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