Football Ventures

[Johnnyrotten]

2 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

He was unavailable through injury for 27 matches last season, and unavailable for the run-in (again) this season

And he's only getting older

I think it's pretty damning

I didn't realise it was so many.  If he played 46, that's 73 games, something doesn't add up.

If IE and the medical chaps know he isn't fit enough, fair enough.  I'm just going off the fact that between maybe September and April he was in 90+% of squads named, for league and cup. If everyone else had been, surely we would have got the extra few points needed.

But I'll leave it there, he isn't staying and we move on.

[Johnnyrotten]

6 minutes ago, Farnywhite said:

You could also say those players played far more minutes than bod so we’re more likely to get injured . Out of is eleven starts did he play 90 minutes ? .
i like him but with 5 strikers and only two out of contract we need to make space and at 31 he isn’t going to be getting any fitter or better 

A valid point, can't argue with that.

[ZiggyStardust]

1 minute ago, Johnnyrotten said:

I didn't realise it was so many.  If he played 46, that's 73 games, something doesn't add up.

If IE and the medical chaps know he isn't fit enough, fair enough.  I'm just going off the fact that between maybe September and April he was in 90+% of squads named, for league and cup. If everyone else had been, surely we would have got the extra few points needed.

But I'll leave it there, he isn't staying and we move on.

27 missed last season = 22-23

21-22 Started 10 (Sub 11) Goals 7

22-23 8 (13) 3

23-24 11 (25) 4

[Steejay]

Anyway, he'll be gone. We need to move on from him.

[Johnnyrotten]

6 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said:

27 missed last season = 22-23

21-22 Started 10 (Sub 11) Goals 7

22-23 8 (13) 3

23-24 11 (25) 4

Oh right, last season was 22-23, course.

Presume that's why he only got a 1 year deal, yes there were doubts about his fitness, no argument.  Then he appeared to prove his fitness by being in nearly every squad barring first weeks of season, more than most others.

BTW I'm not arguing his goal return last 2 seasons is poor, 4 in the league. But FWIW its 10 including cups and when Charles is quoted as scoring 20 a season, cups are always included (as well as pens).

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

2 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Oh right, last season was 22-23, course.

Presume that's why he only got a 1 year deal, yes there were doubts about his fitness, no argument.  Then he appeared to prove his fitness by being in nearly every squad barring first weeks of season, more than most others.

BTW I'm not arguing his goal return last 2 seasons is poor, 4 in the league. But FWIW its 10 including cups and when Charles is quoted as scoring 20 a season, cups are always included (as well as pens).

Before then getting injured again

[Big E]

Bods goal to minutes is better than victor I think. That’s how shit our strikers are 

[gonzo]

2 minutes ago, Big E said:

Bods goal to minutes is better than victor I think. That’s how shit our strikers are 

He can get gone as well. Pray those Turkish loons still fancy him.

We need a complete overhaul and freshen things up or we are in Phil Neal territory after Tranmere.

Go and get Cosgrove or someone that can actually mix it up. 

[radcliffe white]

11 minutes ago, Big E said:

Bods goal to minutes is better than victor I think. That’s how shit our strikers are 

Charles & Collins build from there get shut of the rest (attackers that is) I honestly can’t see a championship club coming for Charles 

[Cheese]

13 minutes ago, gonzo said:

He can get gone as well. Pray those Turkish loons still fancy him.

We need a complete overhaul and freshen things up or we are in Phil Neal territory after Tranmere.

Go and get Cosgrove or someone that can actually mix it up. 

Cosgrove has scored 6 goals this season, and 21 in the last 4 years. Hardly prolific. If we signed every player who ups his game when he plays us, we'd have hundreds of shit players.

Edited May 20, 2024 by Cheese

[auckland_bwfc]

5 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Cosgrove has scored 6 goals this season, and 21 in the last 4 years. Hardly prolific. If we signed every player who ups his game when he plays us, we'd have hundreds of shit players.

We got Cole Stockton yet?

[Whitesince63]

What’s the score with Conor Carty at the moment? Is he still injured and if not would he be included in our options or more likely loaned out again?

[Zico]

12 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Cosgrove has scored 6 goals this season, and 21 in the last 4 years. Hardly prolific. If we signed every player who ups his game when he plays us, we'd have hundreds of shit players.

aye, fuck that

he scored 3 goals in 2 games against us

he scored 4 in 74 across the following clubs

Barrow
Chorley
North Ferriby United
Carlisle United
Birmingham City
Shrewsbury Town
AFC Wimbledon 

he had a couple of good seasons for Aberdeen

he is not what we need at all

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

10 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said:

What’s the score with Conor Carty at the moment? Is he still injured and if not would he be included in our options or more likely loaned out again?

He's injured and I'd imagine will most likely be sent on loan to League Two next season

[Steejay]

1 minute ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

He's injured and I'd imagine will most likely be sent on loan to League Two next season

Before going to Chorley in January.

[gonzo]

24 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Cosgrove has scored 6 goals this season, and 21 in the last 4 years. Hardly prolific. If we signed every player who ups his game when he plays us, we'd have hundreds of shit players.

Let's get that lump from Wigan and Branigan from Oxford too

[Johnnyrotten]

42 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Before then getting injured again

If we binned everyone that got injured every 6 months we'd have a very small squad!

Williams being injured (again) for the final seemed to be met with a shrug of the shoulders, if Bod had been expected to play and dropped out on the day he would have been labelled as injury prone.

Likewise Maghoma getting injured after 30 seconds, if that had been Bod, he's made of glass.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

12 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

If we binned everyone that got injured every 6 months we'd have a very small squad!

Williams being injured (again) for the final seemed to be met with a shrug of the shoulders, if Bod had been expected to play and dropped out on the day he would have been labelled as injury prone.

Likewise Maghoma getting injured after 30 seconds, if that had been Bod, he's made of glass.

People might be saying that but it'd be because he's had so much time out previously

27 matches last season

[ZiggyStardust]

33 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Let's get that lump from Wigan and Branigan from Oxford too

you have seen post #1 in the transfer thread i take it.

 

 

 

[Biggish Dave]

Some of Bods improvised finishes and a couple of goals where he's lashed it early - utd kids being one, some of our other strikers wouldn't have a clue where to start with them.

Collins the only other striker likely to have finished them

[woolli]

3 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

A good summary, agree with much of it (but I'd pay a fee any day of the week for Maghoma, a class above this league).

Has Dion scored a league goal from open play this year?  I can't recall one, a great 1st half of the season (11 from open play) but doesn't look the same player to me and as we know he hardly ever gets goals in home games when teams defend deeper than away.  Its Collins and a new striker with a bit of physicality for me, Charles 3rd choice back up/sub or if we can get a fee, cash in.

I agree Santos is never a captain, but neither should Tomo be a guaranteed starter/captain the way he "tackles", and agreed Dempsey should play more but never a captain, never opens his mouth.  We need to bring a captain in as a priority.

Dempsey was captain at Gillingham when we signed him, hes not new to it.

[Mounts Kipper]

3 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

A good summary, agree with much of it (but I'd pay a fee any day of the week for Maghoma, a class above this league).

Has Dion scored a league goal from open play this year?  I can't recall one, a great 1st half of the season (11 from open play) but doesn't look the same player to me and as we know he hardly ever gets goals in home games when teams defend deeper than away.  Its Collins and a new striker with a bit of physicality for me, Charles 3rd choice back up/sub or if we can get a fee, cash in.

I agree Santos is never a captain, but neither should Tomo be a guaranteed starter/captain the way he "tackles", and agreed Dempsey should play more but never a captain, never opens his mouth.  We need to bring a captain in as a priority.

I wouldn’t touch him with a barge pole, yes he can do the odd dribble, but never finishes a game and set the tone on Saturday by backing out of a tackle. 

[FrancisFogarty]

2 hours ago, Big E said:

Bods goal to minutes is better than victor I think. That’s how shit our strikers are 

Shows how shit the service they get is too.

Mind you it's hard to give the strikers any service while we're fannying about in our own half with 60 odd% possession.

All the things we have been talking about on here and in pubs and at work condensed into an hour and half of expensive shite.

[wakey]

34 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

 and set the tone on Saturday by backing out of a tackle. 

to be fair, he didn't back out of the tackle. The only thing their mon could do was slide and and put it into touch. Maghoma (rightly) let him.

No comparison to the one a few weeks ago.

[Steejay]

1 hour ago, Johnnyrotten said:

If we binned everyone that got injured every 6 months we'd have a very small squad!

Williams being injured (again) for the final seemed to be met with a shrug of the shoulders, if Bod had been expected to play and dropped out on the day he would have been labelled as injury prone.

Likewise Maghoma getting injured after 30 seconds, if that had been Bod, he's made of glass.

FFS , I know you have a poster of him on your bedroom ceiling but just leave it, he’ll be on his way. 😉