The Final

[Zico]

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

The only good thing about the entire day yesterday was before the game when we were watching the players warm up. Our Head Kitman came over to get my attention and pointed at my lad - then threw him an official play-off final first team shirt signed by the entire squad. My lad was absolutely fucking beaming. He felt like the luckiest kid in the stadium. That'll be our only lasting memory of an otherwise miserable day.

I hope he threw it back at the useless shites at the end, on fire

[Casino]

1 hour ago, JimmyRiddle said:

 

Dacres-Cogley ending up as a LWB, which to the best of my knowledge he hasn't done all season, will be a standout WTF moment in a day full of them.

Cogley played there at wycombe. We won

I liked declan johh

Hes at salford...either cos he chased the money or its the best offer he got

Well rid

[Zico]

39 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

The only time the wing-backs have really worked well consistently is when we've had loanees from the PL playing there

John was great in L1, as was Fossey but I'm not having it that he was a PL player in the making like Bradley was

LWB has been a real issue for IE though, he's had so many players there including Dapo and Sadlier 

We've had 3 this season and they've all done a good job when called upon but IE just can't seem to pick and stick with a LWB like he did with Bradley and then Cogley 

[Cheese]

Just now, Zico said:

I hope he threw it back at the useless shites at the end, on fire

Similar thoughts did cross my mind, but he was properly chuffed so it's getting framed for his bedroom wall. No idea why he was singled out. Probably because we were sat at the front watching the players warm up and waving our Papa John flags like a pair of losers while everyone else was upstairs having a good time.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

Just now, Zico said:

John was great in L1, as was Fossey but I'm not having it that he was a PL player in the making like Bradley was

LWB has been a real issue for IE though, he's had so many players there including Dapo and Sadlier 

We've had 3 this season and they've all done a good job when called upon but IE just can't seem to pick and stick with a LWB like he did with Bradley and then Cogley 

I'm not claiming Fossey was of the same ability as Bradley but he and Bradley were clearly superior to the rest we've tried in that position and it showed

It's a massively demanding role and it's no surprise that so many have struggled to properly execute it 

We'd be better off signing wingers / wide midfielders to play in front of full-backs imo

[Zico]

1 minute ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I'm not claiming Fossey was of the same ability as Bradley but he and Bradley were clearly superior to the rest we've tried in that position and it showed

It's a massively demanding role and it's no surprise that so many have struggled to properly execute it 

We'd be better off signing wingers / wide midfielders to play in front of full-backs imo

Yeah my point was that whilst being on loan from Fulham , Fossey was not / is not a PL standard loan like Bradley was

Or perhaps more to the point, Beck and Ramsay are also PL loanees and did nothing 

I'd take Cogley, Williams, Ogbeta and Ashworth over them two

[gonzo]

28 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Seeing as so many people liked my post, it'd be rude not to post this.

Where did he get them shades pal? 😎 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

1 minute ago, Zico said:

Yeah my point was that whilst being on loan from Fulham , Fossey was not / is not a PL standard loan like Bradley was

Or perhaps more to the point, Beck and Ramsay are also PL loanees and did nothing 

I'd take Cogley, Williams, Ogbeta and Ashworth over them two

So would I

But we need a very good player to play that role and the only times it's been done properly are when we've borrowed a quality of player we'd struggle to sign permanently

That doesn't mean every loanee from a PL club will be a success

The likes of Jones, Cogley, etc. can do a job but we'd be better of having someone in front of them

[Spider]

46 minutes ago, radcliffe white said:

Lads old team manager used to give them an envelope at awards evening either see you for pre season or thanks but no thanks

ruthless 

Pathetic that.

i hope one of the dads chinned him

[Leyther_Matt]

46 minutes ago, radcliffe white said:

Lads old team manager used to give them an envelope at awards evening either see you for pre season or thanks but no thanks

ruthless 

That’s tantamount to psychological abuse tbh. Genuinely think that would be in breach of some safeguarding regulation or another. 

[gonzo]

3 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

That’s tantamount to psychological abuse tbh. Genuinely think that would be in breach of some safeguarding regulation or another. 

I hope he's currently battling a severe illness with gout and heart disease.

[woolli]

12 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

@Leyther_Matt I think you're doing Maghoma a disservice

That challenge almost snapped his leg

He shouldnt have stayed on the pitch then!

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

1 minute ago, woolli said:

He shouldnt have stayed on the pitch then!

Maybe not but that's down to the physio/management

[Lostock Whites]

Another thing that sprung to mind from yesterday's nightmare was how poor our crossing was.

Our first 2 corners summed it up, first one completely underhit, not even beating the blades of grass never mind the first man. The 2nd was over hit and I think went out for a throw in.

We had so many half opportunities out wide to put a ball in and they were all horrendous.

Ogbeta and Cogley nowhere near good enough.

Our structure dictates complete reliance upon our wing backs to do everything in terms of our attacking input, and when they are not good enough or neutralised then we won't score.

I personally hate 5 at the back and would much rather see 2 options out wide inside of 1.

Not arsed about thinking next season at the moment, however, if we are going to carry on. Then put all our focus in on getting the best wing backs possible.

[Arrested development]

39 minutes ago, Zico said:

Yeah my point was that whilst being on loan from Fulham , Fossey was not / is not a PL standard loan like Bradley was

Or perhaps more to the point, Beck and Ramsay are also PL loanees and did nothing 

I'd take Cogley, Williams, Ogbeta and Ashworth over them two

Your doing fossey a bit of a disservice. He's first choice at standard liege now. I've nothing against cogley but fossey is and was better than him. 

[Rizlar]

Posted several times that our wing backs are just not up to it crossing is poor even when they get in good positions for me change of system is a must.

[woolli]

Well, just back from a 4500 mile trip, for absolutely fuck all! God, that was poor.  Its all been said on here. I fell as bad today as yesterday, its going to take some erasing this! I dont really have the heart to talk about it! Just gobsmacked with that performance! Do the decent thing Mr Evatt, resign please, best for you and everyone concerned at the club. You have done well for us, but time for someone with a new direction, who can play 4-3-3. with a defence that consists of two proper centre backs, two full backs, who are actually that, who can tackle, a winger who is a winger, who can get to the by line, and actually take players on. Had enough, dont think me and the wife spoke two words going back to Farnworth! Shouldnt be like this should it?

[FrancisFogarty]

1 hour ago, Zico said:

I hope he threw it back at the useless shites at the end, on fire

Useless shites. Brilliant.

[Cheese]

There was an interview in the Bolton News last week in which Aaron Collins said "We've all already booked our summer holidays, and I want to go on mine knowing I'm a Championship player". I know it's only a tiny thing, but combined with the pitch invasion, the subsequent images of players drinking beer in the stands, and Evatt's previous comments about us being the best team in the League, I had a horrible feeling in the build up to the final. Wish we'd all just shut the fuck up sometimes. As Evatt has said himself, there's a very thin line between confidence and arrogance. I think we crossed it. The players looked totally fucking drained of mental energy, as though the job was already done, then they shit themselves when they realised it wasn't. The buck lies with the Manager of course, but none of the external influences helped either.

Edited May 19, 2024 by Cheese

[London Wanderer]

Been watching a fair few playoff games recently, or catching up on highlights up & down the English pyramid. Scottish promotion & relegation playoffs as well.

 Some teams have underperformed & there have been disappointments. But nothing comes anywhere close to how we performed. Not an ounce of desire or willingness to try & play, no urgency or effort. 
 

It’s unheard of, when so much is at stake, it really is.

The more I process it, the more bewildered I end up. 
 

[Farrelli]

7 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Been watching a fair few playoff games recently, or catching up on highlights up & down the English pyramid. Scottish promotion & relegation playoffs as well.

 Some teams have underperformed & there have been disappointments. But nothing comes anywhere close to how we performed. Not an ounce of desire or willingness to try & play, no urgency or effort. 
 

It’s unheard of, when so much is at stake, it really is.

The more I process it, the more bewildered I end up. 
 

Aye it was terrible. That first half will live long in the memory for all the wrong reasons. 

[perth_white]

2 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Maybe not but that's down to the physio/management

Plus if he'd have signalled he needed to be substituted there would be loads on here calling him a soft cock.

[Mounts Kipper]

6 hours ago, perth_white said:

Plus if he'd have signalled he needed to be substituted there would be loads on here calling him a soft cock.

If he’d not backed out of the tackle he wouldn’t have got injured. 

Edited May 20, 2024 by Mounts Kipper

[radcliffe white]

It feels worse today 

[ricktrotter]

13 minutes ago, radcliffe white said:

It feels worse today 

Absolutely.