Birmingham City (A)

[Wanderlust]

Birmingham showed the difference between a £35 million team and a £5 million team so the big surprise is that it was only 2. Some of our fans need to calm the fuck down, accept where we are and be grateful we’re still here instead of whingeing about the club.

[meanderson93]

11 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

Birmingham showed the difference between a £35 million team and a £5 million team so the big surprise is that it was only 2. Some of our fans need to calm the fuck down, accept where we are and be grateful we’re still here instead of whingeing about the club.

🙄🙄🙄

[Marc505]

17 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

Birmingham showed the difference between a £35 million team and a £5 million team so the big surprise is that it was only 2. Some of our fans need to calm the fuck down, accept where we are and be grateful we’re still here instead of whingeing about the club.

Jesus christ. 

[Farrelli]

Sad to report that we are going backwards. L1 is far more competitive this season and we rarely turn up for the big matches. It’s not a good combination.

[Lostock Whites]

That game has angered me a lot more than I was hoping it would.

I was expecting a loss because our record against better sides is truly awful, but the way we went about it was just pure cowardice and defeatist.

Evatt set us up more out of hope than anything, as if we were playing Arsenal.

His comments again just proves how delusional and deflective he is. Yet again there's just always some excuse. This time he's thrown Mcatee under the bus, as well as Southwood, saying that by missing Baxter, Toal and Thommo that there was no way for us to play energetically.

Yes they're key players, but what does that say about Southwood, Williams and Matete? Those players have been brought in and are they responsible for such a poor tactical performance?

He just loves bringing in this whole siege mentality around injuries as an excuse for us not performing time and time again.

In summary, despite all the analysis that could be made, I'm just simply bored. I'm bored of this formation, this theme of not winning big games and bored of a manager that is delusional and has long past his stay.

And I'm reading comments from Birmingham fans saying that smaller L1 clubs like Lincoln and Leyton Orient had more of a go than we did.

There's not even 1% of me that thinks promotion with this team at the minute. We're a joke

[Marc505]

12 minutes ago, Lostock Whites said:

That game has angered me a lot more than I was hoping it would.

I was expecting a loss because our record against better sides is truly awful, but the way we went about it was just pure cowardice and defeatist.

Evatt set us up more out of hope than anything, as if we were playing Arsenal.

His comments again just proves how delusional and deflective he is. Yet again there's just always some excuse. This time he's thrown Mcatee under the bus, as well as Southwood, saying that by missing Baxter, Toal and Thommo that there was no way for us to play energetically.

Yes they're key players, but what does that say about Southwood, Williams and Matete? Those players have been brought in and are they responsible for such a poor tactical performance?

He just loves bringing in this whole siege mentality around injuries as an excuse for us not performing time and time again.

In summary, despite all the analysis that could be made, I'm just simply bored. I'm bored of this formation, this theme of not winning big games and bored of a manager that is delusional and has long past his stay.

And I'm reading comments from Birmingham fans saying that smaller L1 clubs like Lincoln and Leyton Orient had more of a go than we did.

There's not even 1% of me that thinks promotion with this team at the minute. We're a joke

Guarantee we'd have played no differently even with them on the pitch.

[Lostock Whites]

Evatt's whole philosophy with us is to make us ready for the Championship, yet after 5 seasons this has not happend. And when we play against a side that is the best in the league, we abandon our whole philosophy because of a couple of injuries.

Clueless and delusional.

[Dr. Feelgood]

Last season, which ultimately we failed, we were 3rd, should gave been top two.

This, we're currently mid-table and, despite adding some real potential, we appear not to know wtf we're doing. It's not going to alter with the current regime.

Yet again we fail to turn up for a big game. People wanted to judge the manager after a dozen games. We've now have that. So ... is it good enough ?

[Leyther_Matt]

Just got back. In what world is it ever a good idea to have Charles on his own up top?

No issue with intending to keep it tight early on etc but once that plan was out of the window in 200 seconds, it wasn’t until 70 minutes later that we showed any sort of attacking intent. When we did, we looked genuinely threatening and showed their defence to be distinctly average. If McAtee scores that chance then we’re looking at an entirely different finish but as it is we got exactly what we deserved and ultimately what we’d set up for to keep the score down. Absolutely dreadful attitude for a League One match from all concerned.

[perth_white]

12 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

Last season, which ultimately we failed, we were 3rd, should gave been top two.

This, we're currently mid-table and, despite adding some real potential, we appear not to know wtf we're doing. It's not going to alter with the current regime.

Yet again we fail to turn up for a big game. People wanted to judge the manager after a dozen games. We've now have that. So ... is it good enough ?

I'm one of the people that said we should keep Evatt as I believed that there would be changes made that addressed the issues that have consistently showed with this team. The last 6 games read W4 D1 L1 but it has is no way been convincing and we've again failed to show up for the big game. I think it's time that we parted ways but he won't be sacked and won't leave voluntarily so it is this for the foreseeable. The next 6 fixtures are not ones you'd want when scramble to find any sort of identity. I suspect this period from Brum to Blackpool defines our season, 11 points from those would mean 2 points per game over the 12 fixtures, we need that many points realistically and I just don't see it happening.

[tshape]

I just feel completely drained of any enthusiasm for the rest of this season.

[bolton va va]

Just back, completely outplayed in the 1st half, it was a miracle we were only one down at h/t, but the better 2nd half gave us the chance to pinch a point we didn't deserve.  A reality check that B/ham look a long way ahead of us.

Santos motm, Johnson & Cogley gave it everything.  Matete, Arfield & Sheehan first half, not so good.

 

[CambridgeBWFC]

Someone mentioned before the game how good we are at pressing teams, tonight we didn't and I have felt for a while how teams press and pressure us much more effectively than we do to them. Tonight Birmingham often had two players closing down our defenders, who panic and kicked it long, but where was our extra man?  We can press two of their defenders, with one player and still look a man short when the ball moves forward. It is baffling. 

We also do suffer a lot of injuries,  some of this is down to recruitment and that may be a consequence of where we are financially, however we need to look at our training methods and how we protect players. Dempsey tonight looked really uncomfortable, goes down and is saying he twisted his knee. Was very surprised he came back on, but then replaced at HT as obviously not right. Players will always want to continue but the medical team and manager sometimes need to take that decision away. We will wait and see the extent,  but I can see it being another fairly lengthy lay off with something like a meniscus tear, given the way he was gesticulating as he walked to the touchline. Which will be a huge blow, if it turns out that way. 

The approach and set up tonight was embarrassing against a promotion rival and we looked miles away from competing. No one is getting much credit, but special mention to Sheehan who was fucking awful. If he wasn't giving the ball way he was kicking and pushing them and giving very cheap fouls away.

Seriously depressing evening of football,  I am just done with it now and as others have said completely lost interest and motivation for the season. 

 

[superkev]

The next few weeks could easily get worse with the injuries we have and the midfield we will be putting out😩

[gonzo]

1 hour ago, superkev said:

The next few weeks could easily get worse with the injuries we have and the midfield we will be putting out😩

Said it a while ago.

Stockport, Blackpool and Wigan all within a few weeks will make or break him.

We get shown up again he's a gonner.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

8 hours ago, Wanderlust said:

Birmingham showed the difference between a £35 million team and a £5 million team so the big surprise is that it was only 2. Some of our fans need to calm the fuck down, accept where we are and be grateful we’re still here instead of whingeing about the club.

Utter crap.

Scrap the season now.

Just award positions on the basis of financial investment.

We will qualify for the play-offs no doubt, and may even finish 3rd, which would mean we'd automatically win them too.

Or alternatively, look at the smaller teams above us, giving it a go- above their size and investment.

We could start showing more of an effort in these big games, and also not piss-arsing around with selections that have players not in their best position and leaving others exposed.

Some (most) of our fans are simply frustrated by what appears to be team going backwards, and largely underperforming.

Some of our fans want to live in the past. At least FV don't, and have made it clear that they want to be in the championship. They've provided the cash for IE, and he's built a good squad.

The minimum we can expect is effort and to see players showing the basics.

We were beaten well before kick off last night,and all this starts with the man at the top, together with his staff. 

It's not only stale, but full of mould. 

 

[Horwich]

Got beat by a better side than us.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 minute ago, Horwich said:

Got beat by a better side than us.

No shit.

[gonzo]

7 hours ago, Lostock Whites said:

Evatt's whole philosophy with us is to make us ready for the Championship, yet after 5 seasons this has not happend. And when we play against a side that is the best in the league, we abandon our whole philosophy because of a couple of injuries.

Clueless and delusional.

I just can't get my head around any of it.

Probably his most baffling team sheet since he's been here.

I'll back him all day but what is he seeing asking Charles to play up top on his own? 

Dion is probably 4th choice in our list of forwards to hold the ball up. He's an off the shoulder striker that relies on quick early balls for him run on to. 

Just bizarre and I'm majorly concerned he's entering in to his own mind try to solve problems that aren't there.

I'd rather him be a stubborn fucker than change the system every game.

[marple whites]

Another big game another bottle job.

thought the defence played well considering the amount of work they had to do.

their 2 in the middle dominated throughout and when we did get the ball we gave it away.

why you play Charles to whack the ball up to god only knows.

if Dempsey is now out we have big problems in the middle.

can’t see that team turning up for these local derbies on the horizon ……

[desperado]

It’s hard for me to come on here and admit my faith and hope may have been misplaced.

For me there can’t be any slip-ups in these next 4/5 games to convince me Evatt can get us challenging.

It’s not impossible, but I’m far from convinced we brush that performance under the table to put in promotion standard performances consistently. 

I didn’t think last night would be a game that would have me making comments about Evatt tenure, but it’s really hard not to when you see that inept first half, the way we set up and his comments after about his plan B - all crap.

I’m finding it hard, like I usually would,  to call out some of the negativity on here as a lot of it is justified. Which in itself must tell a story if I’m not calling it out! 

The fans (cringey Villa and “how shit must you be” chants aside) last night, and all season really, have been brilliant. We are a passionate, hopeful (and to an extent loyal) bunch, we believe and follow in numbers.

But that’s not going to stretch for much longer if we don’t show we have what it takes to challenge for promotion.

Before yesterday I was seriously considering Stevenage away, but now I’m really wondering whether I can be arsed.

And if I’m feeling like that, I just wonder how many tolerant and hopeful fans we’ll have left if we don’t very quickly turn last night’s disappointment around?

 

[ZiggyStardust]

10 hours ago, Steejay said:

Yeah but he’s signed them.

Signed them, trained them, picked them.

 

[Guest Victor meldrew]

25 minutes ago, desperado said:

It’s hard for me to come on here and admit my faith and hope may have been misplaced.

For me there can’t be any slip-ups in these next 4/5 games to convince me Evatt can get us challenging.

It’s not impossible, but I’m far from convinced we brush that performance under the table to put in promotion standard performances consistently. 

I didn’t think last night would be a game that would have me making comments about Evatt tenure, but it’s really hard not to when you see that inept first half, the way we set up and his comments after about his plan B - all crap.

I’m finding it hard, like I usually would,  to call out some of the negativity on here as a lot of it is justified. Which in itself must tell a story if I’m not calling it out! 

The fans (cringey Villa and “how shit must you be” chants aside) last night, and all season really, have been brilliant. We are a passionate, hopeful (and to an extent loyal) bunch, we believe and follow in numbers.

But that’s not going to stretch for much longer if we don’t show we have what it takes to challenge for promotion.

Before yesterday I was seriously considering Stevenage away, but now I’m really wondering whether I can be arsed.

And if I’m feeling like that, I just wonder how many tolerant and hopeful fans we’ll have left if we don’t very quickly turn last night’s disappointment around?

 

I left your room in December 2022

[desperado]

19 minutes ago, Guest Victor meldrew said:

I left your room in December 2022

Crikey, that early? Before the Plymouth final? That spring of 23 showed some real promise for me.

Yet like me you have travelled around the country in the hope that we’d get a promotion winning team. 😊

Edited October 23, 2024 by desperado

[Whitesince63]

9 hours ago, Marc505 said:

Guarantee we'd have played no differently even with them on the pitch.

I agree we wouldn’t have but that just emphasises the problem we have with Evatt and probably why we never win games of this type.