Luton Town (A)

[DaveTheRave]

Good point away from home.

The performance wasn't great apart from the first 15 minutes. After we scored I thought we struggled a bit and were a bit sloppy keeping possession. That said we had a great chance to go 2-0 up with ACDs diving header.

Thought the sending off was very harsh.

Overall I'd say it's a decent enough point.

Come On You Whites!!!

[gonzo]

5 minutes ago, worthy10 said:

Very few positives today, surely. The bookies still fancy us though

We drew despite being massively under pressure for large swathes of the game and were down to ten men for the final 3rd.

That's all the positives you need.

 

[desperado]

30 minutes ago, worthy10 said:

If today was a barometer for where we are in the promotion race, we are miles off it. That said, there are no stand out sides that look like running away with it, it is a poor standard. Which makes me wince at the thought of us getting promoted. The wholesale changes and spending required to even stay in the championship would be collosal. 

Cross that bridge......I guess?

 

Why are we miles off it after drawing with 10 men away? We’re hardly detached. The sides above us don’t look better than us. 

And the Championship comparison is utter nonsense. 

But I suspect you know that, hence you questioning your own bizarre question.

[Farnywhite]

The positive today was we ground a draw out apart from that we were second best for long periods that and Bradford we haven’t looked great hopefully it’s not a trend the momentum by not playing Stevenage hasn’t helped . 
away form is a worry for a top 2 finish 

Edited November 29, 2025 by Farnywhite

[bwfc4ife]

We were very lucky to come away with a point. From the point we scored, we shat ourselves panicked and looked like a team fighting relegation desperate to clear our lines at every opportunity.
 

Take the point obviously but I expected we’d of made a better fist of the challenge at least whilst 11 vs 11
 

Edited November 29, 2025 by bwfc4ife

[L/H White]

Still only one away win since April 

Uphill task to get promoted if this doesn't improve sharpish 

[Whitestar]

4 minutes ago, L/H White said:

Still only one away win since April 

Uphill task to get promoted if this doesn't improve sharpish 

Bit harsh, win at home and grind out them draws away at the better teams and we'll be there or thereabouts.

Any more cliche's anyone?

 

[desperado]

Was trying to see whether Simons red card suspension. can be used next Saturday - looks like it can:

Yes, a suspension from a red card issued in a league game will carry over to an FA Cup game

[Tonge moor green jacket]

5 minutes ago, L/H White said:

Still only one away win since April 

Uphill task to get promoted if this doesn't improve sharpish 

Very true, but the last two away results are certainly positive, especially against two decent sides.

If that trend continues against "weaker teams" and we pick up more wins, we should be there or there abouts.

Of course, it could go the other way, but for now, I think we are turning a corner.

[Wanderlust]

46 minutes ago, worthy10 said:

If today was a barometer for where we are in the promotion race, we are miles off it. That said, there are no stand out sides that look like running away with it, it is a poor standard. Which makes me wince at the thought of us getting promoted. The wholesale changes and spending required to even stay in the championship would be collosal. 

Cross that bridge......I guess?

 

Way I see it, we are potentially a better “footballing side” than nearly all teams, but we can be rattled and our performance levels drop too often, so that leaves us on a par with 8 or 9 other teams in a competitive league. 
 

[RUREADY2ROLL]

1 minute ago, Whitestar said:

Bit harsh, win at home and grind out them draws away at the better teams and we'll be there or thereabouts.

Any more cliche's anyone?

 

Next two league away games are crucial and we need 4 points and beat Exeter

[gonzo]

4 points off the top lads.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 minute ago, gonzo said:

4 points off the top lads.

Aye.

We'd all like to be that bit closer, but we're in far better shape than we were after Burton.

Bound to be some changes for the cup, but I'd like us to play a strong side and win, then go to Mansfield in good heart.

[Take Hunt Off]

Backs against the wall last twenty minutes but we didn’t fold completely.Toal & Johnstone have upped their game considerably. Conway had a poor game & Cogley needs replacing in the window as Christie won’t be fit enough to play every game. Can’t understand why we didn’t combat the diagonal ball that exposed Cogley time & time again.ie one on one against a guy that skinned him.

Tutu had a decent game & has quality when he wants to use it. Morley disappointed again giving the ball away with careless flicks & inaccurate passing.

Symonds was good & harshly sent off for two decent tackles that another referee might not have given even fouls for.ACD marked to the hilt on a tight pitch 

As soon as the match turned into a physical battle which largely bypassed midfield we lost control but got to give the other team credit for working out our weaknesses.

Good point .Performances like that are a necessary part of a promotion campaign.

[waffer cup 07]

A sllding tackle where your foot is on the ground and the player wins the ball is not a foul, fact. Another shocking ref.

[Rizlar]

5 minutes ago, waffer cup 07 said:

A sllding tackle where your foot is on the ground and the player wins the ball is not a foul, fact. Another shocking ref.

Can we not appeal it ?

[boogs]

1 minute ago, Rizlar said:

Can we not appeal it ?

Not for 2 yellows

[Rizlar]

3 minutes ago, boogs said:

Not for 2 yellows

👍

[waffer cup 07]

Ref gave a foul against Conway in the 1st half when he was in posession of the ball, a Luton player pushed Conway and then fell on the floor , Ref gave Luton a free kick. Unbelievable.

Edited November 29, 2025 by waffer cup 07

[Johnnyrotten]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

A bit more like his Plymouth side that went up.

Not always convincing, but finding a way.

There will always be things we can do better- including the manager- but I do think we're slowly developing a tougher mentality. 

As for Cardiff- they may well win the league, but the idea that it is simply a battle for second is far too premature, and I'd be properly pissed off if we felt that way as a club.

We saw how average Cardiff are.  No way are they having the title handed to them, unless they strengthen in January.  If we do and they don't, we can catch them.

Can't compare us to Plymouth though, they had Ennis, Hardie, Azaz, Cosgrove, Whitaker scoring goals to win games like today.  We've gone from relying on Burstow and ACD to get us goals out of nothing to seemingly just relying on ACD to have one of his moments.  A good point today though, feels good to be 2nd best and not lose away.

[Domcarey1]

A hard fought point today.  Had to dig in 2nd half but I think we’ll need another forward in January, Burstow tired today & the ball didn’t stick up front & led to us being under more pressure. Dalby huffed & puffed when he came on. Could have made the other subs earlier on as well.  Game was crying out for Erhahon in midfield even before the sending off & Dempsey had a great 1st half but faded badly in the 2nd.
 

[worthy10]

1 hour ago, waffer cup 07 said:

A sllding tackle where your foot is on the ground and the player wins the ball is not a foul, fact. Another shocking ref.

This is why feigning serious injury is now so prevalent. It leads the ref to believe it was a bad foul and gets the culprit carded. Sad sign of the times

Different Luton players did this for each of Simons cards and their Vergil lookalike did the same in the 1st half, pretending he'd caught a flailing arm to the mouth.

 

Edited November 29, 2025 by worthy10
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[Arrested development]

2 hours ago, worthy10 said:

If today was a barometer for where we are in the promotion race, we are miles off it. That said, there are no stand out sides that look like running away with it, it is a poor standard. Which makes me wince at the thought of us getting promoted. The wholesale changes and spending required to even stay in the championship would be collosal. 

Cross that bridge......I guess?

 

Did you watch the game? What a load of fucking bollocks. Thats a good point. Miles off it? Fuck off. We would if won easily without the red card. Give your fuckong head a wobble. 

[Leyther_Matt]

Disappointed tbh

Got to be careful how I phrase this, but I thought it was a dreadful reaction from Schumacher to the red card. The one ‘shoring’ option was Erhahon coming on for one of the wingers and have Duberry/Forss/McAtee running about in the gap between the front man and the midfield, but he came on for Dempsey and at that point we were always hanging on at best. I thought back to the amount of times we’ve played against 10 and barely noticed the difference, whereas that just seemed to set us up for failure. One to learn from, hopefully.

Game really should have been out of sight when Duberry hit the side of my head instead of the back of the net.

Staggered to see criticism of Cogley on social media. Absolutely imperious at times, especially one particular piece of defending in the box first half, and offered so much more energy than Christie.

Pre match would have been a good point, but I’m glad Schumacher seems to be similarly disappointed with the circumstances.

Good to see @jazza, @leighwhites, @jules_darby and @marple whites

Fair to say we had a worm’s eye view on row 2, but the safe standing made things miles more organised than last time

[Eddie]

Great start, goal was a proper team move with some quality from Tutu and Dempsey picking up those positions where the opposition can’t pick him up. I had it on the Luton commentary and they were seriously concerned at how easily we opened them up.

Then it all changed. They had the next 75 mins of the game. Not a battering by any means (up until the sending off) but they were in the driving seat.

Centre backs were brilliant again, TSL was assured. Full backs were gash, both of them. The centre backs bailed them out time and time again.

Simons had a good game in midfield (never a red - first yellow was harsh, second wasn’t even a foul) and Dempsey had a brilliant first half but ineffective second. Morley was generally a waste of space and left us seriously short in midfield - they over ran us and he added nothing.

Burstow is struggling. He’s more isolated without Forss close to him and is out of form. Nothing stuck, he rarely found a white shirt and doesn’t currently look a goal threat (I’m a big fan, I just think he’s out of form). Problem is, Dalby looks anything but a capable replacement. I wouldn’t be disappointed to see him start up top v Mansfield with Burstow rested but it’s more out of hope than anything I’ve seen of him.

If we’d have nicked a win then it was true smash and grab. A point away at Luton is a good result, regardless - if we follow it up with wins against Mansfield and Exeter then the last 2 draws turn into really good results.

Biggest question mark for me is waiting until the 73rd minute to make the first change. That game was crying out to be switched up and shored up from about the 55th minute - I’ve no idea why he took so long. Did it cost us, not sure you can say that, but it didn’t help.

We’re still going up.