Dimron Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 Personally I am fed up with all this eastern EU/NATO expansion. It did for the EU and now it's threatened the security of the continent. I liked things as they were in John le Carre's days Quote
Dimron Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Cheese said: You're certainly not alone, but it's a fucking stupid point. Unless you think NATO forced those countries to join? Or NATO were forced into admitting them, they;re nowhere near the North Atlantic Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dimron said: Or NATO were forced into admitting them, they;re nowhere near the North Atlantic How would NATO be forced into admitting them? Quote
Underpants Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dimron said: I am alone in thinking Putin has a point about Nato expansionism? Russia have form for this sort of stuff. And they didn't even need an excuse to do it. Back in the day the Russian empire was great and the politburo loved it. Putin is a throwback to the USSR days and he's showing his muscles. The west are weak and all they can do is implement sanctions. The Russians are more capable now. And the military are more professional than they were back in the cold war days. Quote
stevieb Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 Just playing devil's advocate... If Putin regains the old USSR countries will we stop getting mugged on the underground on city breaks? Quote
BobyBrno Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, Dimron said: Or NATO were forced into admitting them, they;re nowhere near the North Atlantic They weren’t forced. Those nations asked to be part of NATO. They were all ex Soviet states. They preferred the protection of NATO rather than the threat of Russian expansion. You can now see why. Quote
RoadRunnerFan Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, stevieb said: Just playing devil's advocate... If Putin regains the old USSR countries will we stop getting mugged on the underground on city breaks? Be far fewer meaningless Euro qualifiers, what's not to like? Edited February 24, 2022 by RoadRunnerFan Grammar, changed "less" to "fewer" before grammar police struck Quote
RoadRunnerFan Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, RoadRunnerFan said: DP Edited February 24, 2022 by RoadRunnerFan Quote
Youri McAnespie Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 39 minutes ago, bolton_blondie said: We've talked about leaving banana skins at the top of the stairs for a holiday to Disney World. When I was a kid I said to my grandma "can you make a noise like a frog, grandma?" "Why?" "Because my dad said we'll go to Disneyland if you croak" As a kid I once bought an aunty dog make-up for Christmas. She said "Why?" I said "Because my dad said you were an ugly bitch..." Quote
dusan nikolic Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 52 minutes ago, royal white said: Social media is ace today. Everyone who has been a vaccine/covid expert the last 12 months is now a war expert. Plenty of this Today. Quote
Zico Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 18 minutes ago, Cheese said: You're certainly not alone, but it's a fucking stupid point. Unless you think NATO forced those countries to join? Why aren't Ireland in nato? Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 I can’t believe Biden has stated there will be no boots on the ground in Ukraine. Quote
Jol_BWFC Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Marc505 said: Couple of Typhoons that came out of Coningsby barely 2 hours ago now flying patrols over Poland. Whole flight has been available to view on Flight Radar which is fairly unusual. We'll be sending all sorts over that way in the coming days I think. Looks like they’re on their way back. Quote
Winchester White Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: I can’t believe Biden has stated there will be no boots on the ground in Ukraine. There won't be, everyone in the world knows that. Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, Zico said: Why aren't Ireland in nato? "Military neutrality" I've just noticed the Isle of Man isn't a member of NATO either. I never knew that. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 Germany & Italy against harder sanctions, other EU countries saying it’s self interest. Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: I can’t believe Biden has stated there will be no boots on the ground in Ukraine. There was never any prospect of that. Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 Just now, Mounts Kipper said: Germany & Italy against harder sanctions, other EU countries saying it’s self interest. Germany is very dependent on Russian gas. Quote
Marc505 Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said: Looks like they’re on their way back. Trek! I assumed they'd be deploying there wow. Quote
Casino Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 When the ukranians start jumping in boats across the channel, will the usual suspects want their boats sinking? Quote
L/H White Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 11 minutes ago, Marc505 said: Trek! I assumed they'd be deploying there wow. What's that Forte12 jobby doing circling the black sea? Quote
Marc505 Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, L/H White said: What's that Forte12 jobby doing circling the black sea? It's an RQ-4 Global Hawk, a UAV spy plane Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, Casino said: When the ukranians start jumping in boats across the channel, will the usual suspects want their boats sinking? To who are you alluding? As far as I know nobody on here has said such a thing. Quote
Blondi Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 34 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: Germany is very dependent on Russian gas. Aren't Italy too? Quote
royal white Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 I personally think Britain should sit this one out, let all the other countries that haven’t seen much action over the decades have a crack at it, anytime there’s mention of a war or help is needed it’s us and the USA who are looked upon. Quote
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