paulhanley Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 16 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: I need to read it again. I was thinking the bouncer was the fella who'd had a pop previously! Certainly an interesting day to say the least, and its probably fair to say there may be some mitigation when the judge makes his decision. Previously this thread has dwelt on what's often the difference between a custodial and other sentence - whether someone's got previous. If he has none and there's the mitigation to which you refer, the hope would be he'll avoid doing time. Anyway - we'll know soon enough now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted April 11, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Tombwfc said: The article is quite confusingly written, but it sounds like he played for us in the afternoon. Then got sparked out in the street. Followed the guy who did it into a club. Attacked an innocent bouncer, got thrown out. Then smashed through the door and gave the doorman another kicking. Which, by anyones standards, is quite some fucking day. Pretty much, which you can imagine being quite plausable.. end up with community service, Sounds like he's shown remorse in court "You were out of control weren't you"..."Yeah".. Let's be honest, most people on here, if they were sparked out, would want round 2.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 11, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted April 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, only1swanny said: Pretty much, which you can imagine being quite plausable.. end up with community service, Sounds like he's shown remorse in court "You were out of control weren't you"..."Yeah".. Let's be honest, most people on here, if they were sparked out, would want round 2.. Indeed. Think I'd wait a bit though. Nails these fellas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 hour ago, gonzo said: Think @Not in Crawleysells show tickets mate Already got the call up, looking for an old school, midfield general dog of war. In Cuban heels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Tombwfc said: The article is quite confusingly written, but it sounds like he played for us in the afternoon. Then got sparked out in the street. Followed the guy who did it into a club. Attacked an innocent bouncer, got thrown out. Then smashed through the door and gave the doorman another kicking. Which, by anyones standards, is quite some fucking day. I’ll wait for the musical to come out. Seems a lot went on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter FrancisFogarty Posted April 11, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted April 11, 2023 36 minutes ago, only1swanny said: Pretty much, which you can imagine being quite plausable.. end up with community service, Sounds like he's shown remorse in court "You were out of control weren't you"..."Yeah".. Let's be honest, most people on here, if they were sparked out, would want round 2.. Does he not realise there's a club shop, for sorting such differences out ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 (edited) If you think Bolton is bad for resenting locals doing well for themselves, West Cumbria is ten times worse. Dempsey gets dog abuse from pissed up locals, gets in a bit of a fracas with a group of them and gets sparked out. Goes back later with his dad (who is as handy as fuck) looking to settle the score and the doorman "gets in the way" Edited April 11, 2023 by Traf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted April 11, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted April 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, Traf said: If you think Bolton is bad for resenting locals doing well for themselves, West Cumbria is ten times worse. Dempsey gets dog abuse from pissed up locals, gets in a bit of a fracas with a group of them and gets sparked out. Goes back later with his dad (who is as handy as fuck) looking to settle the score and the doorman "gets in the way" Reckon it's got to be community service.. he can teach kids how to playfootball.. start with Mbete and Shortire.. 😛 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 33 minutes ago, Traf said: If you think Bolton is bad for resenting locals doing well for themselves, West Cumbria is ten times worse. Dempsey gets dog abuse from pissed up locals, gets in a bit of a fracas with a group of them and gets sparked out. Goes back later with his dad (who is as handy as fuck) looking to settle the score and the doorman "gets in the way" I reckon the doorman is part of the original stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 23 minutes ago, Big E said: I reckon the doorman is part of the original stuff Highly likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itdiddidit? Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: I need to read it again. I was thinking the bouncer was the fella who'd had a pop previously! Certainly an interesting day to say the least, and its probably fair to say there may be some mitigation when the judge makes his decision. especially if there were any homophobic alice band comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunnerFan Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 11 hours ago, tomski said: I’ll wait for the musical to come out. Seems a lot went on. I'm told our impresario in residence is all over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 29 minutes ago, RoadRunnerFan said: I'm told our impresario in residence is all over it. Curtain Call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunnerFan Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 1 minute ago, gonzo said: Curtain Call 🤣🤣 Makepeace offers a world of possibilities! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfc2003 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 On Cumbria website Kyle Dempsey, of Blackpool, and his dad, of Whitecroft, Maryport, gave evidence at Carlisle Crown Court yesterday after the prosecution opposed their self-defence claims. Today, Judge Ian Unsworth KC, after weighing up all evidence and submissions in the case, rejected the pair’s contentions. It had been, said the judge, a scene of total chaos in which innocent women bystanders both took cover and tried to retrain the footballer. “I am satisfied so that I am sure that Kyle Dempsey was not defending himself. He was out of control, in his own words he had completely lost it,” said Judge Unsworth. He was also totally satisfied that Michael had not acted in defence of his son, nor had the pair been subject to a significant degree of provocation. It was wildly excessive, ruthless and merciless, said the judge, an ugly, crude attack. Judge Unsworth adjourned the hearing for a short time to consider victim impact statements, detailed mitigation on behalf of the two defendants and is due to pass sentence later this afternoon. Both Kyle Dempsey and Michael Dempsey have been granted bail in the meantime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted April 12, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted April 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, bwfc2003 said: On Cumbria website Kyle Dempsey, of Blackpool, and his dad, of Whitecroft, Maryport, gave evidence at Carlisle Crown Court yesterday after the prosecution opposed their self-defence claims. Today, Judge Ian Unsworth KC, after weighing up all evidence and submissions in the case, rejected the pair’s contentions. It had been, said the judge, a scene of total chaos in which innocent women bystanders both took cover and tried to retrain the footballer. “I am satisfied so that I am sure that Kyle Dempsey was not defending himself. He was out of control, in his own words he had completely lost it,” said Judge Unsworth. He was also totally satisfied that Michael had not acted in defence of his son, nor had the pair been subject to a significant degree of provocation. It was wildly excessive, ruthless and merciless, said the judge, an ugly, crude attack. Judge Unsworth adjourned the hearing for a short time to consider victim impact statements, detailed mitigation on behalf of the two defendants and is due to pass sentence later this afternoon. Both Kyle Dempsey and Michael Dempsey have been granted bail in the meantime. Not looking good is it. 😓 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Just now, Cheese said: Not looking good is it. 😓 Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 12, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted April 12, 2023 Is the judge saying there that he wasn't knocked out previously, or insufficient evidence of it? Would have imagined there maybe cctv available in the town centre to verify it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 12, 2023 Moderators Share Posted April 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Is the judge saying there that he wasn't knocked out previously, or insufficient evidence of it? Would have imagined there maybe cctv available in the town centre to verify it. Don't suppose it matters if he's not twatting the bloke who knocked him out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 12, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted April 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Zico said: Don't suppose it matters if he's not twatting the bloke who knocked him out Get that, but it would act as a mitigating factor, if he had been beaten up shortly before- its bound to affect your reasoning and decision making. Not saying it changes the offence, no excuses, but it may just ease the sentence a touch. Seems that the judge is having none of it though, so it's fingers crossed time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Where's Hilary Stonefrost when you need her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Found themselves a Hanging Judge reading that. There'll be an appeal if she gets over-excited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Take Hunt Off Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 58 minutes ago, Traf said: Where's Hilary Stonefrost when you need her? What a woman . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiso Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 12 month suspended sentence: https://www.itv.com/news/border/2023-04-12/kyle-dempsey-avoids-jail-for-merciless-attack-on-club-doorman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little whitt Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said: Found themselves a Hanging Judge reading that. There'll be an appeal if she gets over-excited. No Appeal if they have been Hung and are dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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