Marc505 Posted February 21 Posted February 21 Just now, meanderson93 said: Same story as most of our games this season, and more so since January, dominate games, tonnes of chances that we can't take early and then create problems for ourselves at the back. I'm still confident in how that pans out in a playoff environment but I'd definitely like to start to see us put teams to bed comprehensively before then. It's coming. Me too, though its going to make for a weird couple of months in the lead up to it, this. I sense both a 5-0 win and a 5-0 loss during these near-exhibition games! Quote
barrycowdrill Posted February 21 Posted February 21 Another 2 points thrown away total domination (again) countless chances missed (again) should’ve been out of sight by HT (again) what absolutely amazes is me is when we finally get the breakthrough it feels like it shocks us to the core and gives the opposition a boost of confidence. I’ve never seen anything like it Absolutely no fucking idea what the play offs will turn out like cos we’re all as keen to throw the opportunity away as each other Quote
Hoppy Posted February 21 Posted February 21 Good first half but no goals that's the problem, we only have 1 striker at home easy for teams to mark when they visit and just want a point could have easily played burstow in there instead of Sheehan it has come to the point where he needs to sort out what team and tactics he wants for play off I must admit I though SS was going to take us to another level unfortunately it's just not happened for me as yet Quote
paulhanley Posted February 21 Posted February 21 We can be such a tough watch. Not sure I have ever known a side so poor at converting dominance in to goals - hence the many ,many draws that should have been wins. Automatic promotion looks like a bit of a fantasy now. Hard to see beyond an extended season and the play off lottery all over again. As an older supporter I cannot abide Blackpool so the slight silver lining for me is that we maintained our long, long unbeaten home record v them. Forty years now - they have not won here since a win at Burnden at Easter in 1986. I reckon that is about a dozen league games with several cup games thrown in for good measure. Of course it is the same tale of home team dominance with them v us at Gloomfield. Given derby games are supposed to be the ones where home advantage counts least it is bizarre. All the more so given the amount of times either club has been on the brink of an away win only for late drama to intervene. History on repeat today. A great draw for them given league positions but you just know that the toxically anti-Bolton older generation will be gutted they did not see it through. Anyway the story of the day is the chances of this fixture occurring again next season probably increased today - and that is not a good thing. Quote
Leyther_Matt Posted February 21 Posted February 21 Honestly why are so many of our players just so fucking thick? Such a bloody frustrating afternoon. Again. Quote
worthy10 Posted February 21 Posted February 21 (edited) Sheehan was underwhelming again today. Slowly of the opinion that he's overrated. Should be showing his best to get in a possible world cup squad? Seems to be on the ball a lot but often wastes passes forward and his dead ball deliveries are floated weakly. Johnston did well at left back, he deliver a few whipped in crosses that looked dangerous. Apter yet again seems very Randalleasque. Baffled why we didn't start with 2 strikers. Other than Cardiff and Lincoln, there not much between the rest in the top half. Bad in both boxes was a quote from SS, months ago and not much has improved regarding this. We really do panic at the back when teams attack us. Playoffs against the likes of Stockport, Huddersfield and Bradford have a familiar unpleasant stench about them. Edited February 21 by worthy10 . Quote
1969 Posted February 21 Posted February 21 Just back and really don't know what to think 1st half I thought was very good and if we had that little bit of luck it would of been game over, but to be fair there keeper made a couple of descent saves /blocks. 2nd half we were still the better side but for 2 very poor bits of defending/ goalkeeping it would of been 3 deserved points MOM Dempsey thought he was excellent and his corners are always on the money Quote
mickbrown Posted February 21 Posted February 21 And that, boys and girls is why we ain’t going up. We’re just a fucking ridiculous team Quote
pfk505 Posted February 21 Posted February 21 (edited) I think our best shot at going up was 2nd place, which is over now. We'll make the playoffs but understandably none of us will be confident in that when it's groundhog day with every outing. Burstow deserves a run now. Took his goal really well and seems fired up. Edited February 21 by pfk505 Quote
Tombwfc Posted February 21 Posted February 21 (edited) 40 minutes ago, meanderson93 said: Same story as most of our games this season, and more so since January, dominate games, tonnes of chances that we can't take early and then create problems for ourselves at the back. I'm still confident in how that pans out in a playoff environment but I'd definitely like to start to see us put teams to bed comprehensively before then. It's coming. We're 34 games into the season. We are who we are. We'll play close games against everyone and hopefully nick the odd decisive late goal. Anyone waiting for us to 'click' and turn into a free scoring machine is going to be waiting a long time I think. Edited February 21 by Tombwfc Quote
L/H White Posted February 21 Posted February 21 1 hour ago, Arrested development said: We're 10 points off the autos and that gap is too much. We're 10 points ahead of 7th but it'll be a task keeping in the plsyoffs lol. Shows how negative people are. Same gap, different reaction. Not negative at all. It's the fixtures that we have remaining that are a worry. The type of fixtures we don't do so well in. If we flat line like we did at the backend of last season, it will happen COYWM Quote
jmjhb Posted February 21 Posted February 21 1 minute ago, L/H White said: Not negative at all. It's the fixtures that we have remaining that are a worry. The type of fixtures we don't do so well in. If we flat line like we did at the backend of last season, it will happen COYWM I wish everyone had played the same amount of games so we can finally put this fucking nonsense to bed Quote
Popular Post Eddie Posted February 21 Popular Post Posted February 21 32 minutes ago, barrycowdrill said: Another 2 points thrown away total domination (again) countless chances missed (again) should’ve been out of sight by HT (again) what absolutely amazes is me is when we finally get the breakthrough it feels like it shocks us to the core and gives the opposition a boost of confidence. I’ve never seen anything like it Absolutely no fucking idea what the play offs will turn out like cos we’re all as keen to throw the opportunity away as each other We said exactly this. We don’t know how to lead a game - it had been front foot for 65 mins, we score and literally instantaneously we went into our shell. From the kick off, the launched it down our left, we messed about with it and they had a corner - it set the tone and we never recovered. We absolutely shit ourselves with a lead, there is no coincidence that we don’t win by more than 1 goal because as soon as we score we have a whole change in mentality. As much as that is on the players - SS has to take a lot of stick for it too. You can see it right in front of you, don’t be so fucking naive. Slow the game down, make some subs, tell Bonham to go down ‘injured’, reset. Other teams do it, why can’t we? Instead we’ve got Bonham getting hold of it after a frantic bit of play and then firing long balls out as quickly as he can, they go nowhere, we’re out of shape and it’s all hands on deck again. Fucking stupid, naive, lack of leadership headless chickens. There were positives in the game (Burstow scoring again and Gale actually looking like he gives a shit), but it’s all overshadowed by us finding a way to not win a game, again. One thing is does do is firmly put any idea of automatics out of our mind, so we’re not going to go into the play offs disappointed at missing out as it won’t have been a thing in the last 12 games. But it’s just infuriating and like Groundhog Day this season. Quote
RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted February 21 Posted February 21 3 minutes ago, Tombwfc said: We're 34 games into the season. We are who we are. We'll play close games against everyone and hopefully nick the odd decisive late goal. Anyone waiting for us to 'click' and turn into a free scoring machine is going to be waiting a long time I think. Have to agree with that. We may have an odd game where we score 3 or 4 but i cant see much other than us struggling to turn wins into draws on repeat. The worst part being no matter what selections or formations we get the same outcome........its all quite bizarre. Quote
Tombwfc Posted February 21 Posted February 21 On the plus side, that was a well taken goal by Burstow. Neither him nor Dalby are overly convincing and Kenny is 0/2 on absolute sitters. So it's going to take a mix of people chipping in. Quote
Under_Score Posted February 21 Posted February 21 Feels like a defeat today. We seem to read from the same script most games, dominate teams and not score whilst at the same time have a soft under belly from a defensive point of view. The mistake from Bonham is without doubt a howler but at the same time, we should be out of sight by then and he also pulled off a blinder of a save after that. As much of a howler it is from Bonham, I thought Sheehan was miles off it today and he contributed to the mistake by the way he demands the ball and the way we go through him relentlessly. I feel Bonham doesn’t make that pass to any other midfielder. As soon as that 1st went in, the subs should have been made. I feel Dempsey and Apter should have both come off at that point. 2 more points dropped. The only positive I look at is that our run in is against the top teams where we seem to do better than against the crap in this division Quote
Awful lineup Posted February 21 Posted February 21 2 takeaways . 1. we just can’t finish teams off and everybody knows they only have to stick 7 defenders in the 6 yard box. And we are screwed. 2. We have nothing to play for except hanging on to the top 6 . It’s not proactive in any way only about hanging on Quote
Tombwfc Posted February 21 Posted February 21 9 minutes ago, Under_Score said: Feels like a defeat today. We seem to read from the same script most games, dominate teams and not score whilst at the same time have a soft under belly from a defensive point of view. The mistake from Bonham is without doubt a howler but at the same time, we should be out of sight by then and he also pulled off a blinder of a save after that. As much of a howler it is from Bonham, I thought Sheehan was miles off it today and he contributed to the mistake by the way he demands the ball and the way we go through him relentlessly. I feel Bonham doesn’t make that pass to any other midfielder. As soon as that 1st went in, the subs should have been made. I feel Dempsey and Apter should have both come off at that point. 2 more points dropped. The only positive I look at is that our run in is against the top teams where we seem to do better than against the crap in this division We've won 2 of 11 against the current top 10 and have got 7 more to play against them. Not that we should be worried about 7th. 2pts a game from here from Reading would be remarkable, but it'd leave them on 74. Even with the most pessimistic outlook in the world we're not going to take fewer than 16 points from the final 12. Quote
barrycowdrill Posted February 21 Posted February 21 23 minutes ago, Eddie said: SS has to take a lot of stick for it too. But also what he can’t legislate for is the individual decisions of the players through that period. Toal & Forino who were composed and commanding until that point went to pieces. Diving in, miscued passes, missing headers that 2nd goal is laughable really. Sheehan shows but just because he shows you don’t have to give it him. Just send the fucker in to the sky and take the pressure off game management from the bench and the players is like kids football Quote
Dennis Peacock Posted February 21 Posted February 21 (edited) I think Bonham’s obviously had a bit of a howler with their second. But why is our captain playing that back pass to him just after we’ve conceded and they’re on the front foot. Go long. Relieve the pressure. The decision making under pressure is often poor in our team. It’s mentality and decision making that is our biggest problem, not quality. Edited February 21 by Dennis Peacock Quote
RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted February 21 Posted February 21 3 minutes ago, Dennis Peacock said: I think Bonham’s obviously had a bit of a howler with their second. But why is our captain playing that back pass to him just after we’ve conceded and they’re on the front foot. Go long. Relieve the pressure. The decision making under pressure is often poor in our team. It’s mentality and decision making that is our biggest problem, not quality. If they could just try and remember Sheehan is not Rodri it might be a start. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 21 Posted February 21 37 minutes ago, Tombwfc said: We've won 2 of 11 against the current top 10 and have got 7 more to play against them. Not that we should be worried about 7th. 2pts a game from here from Reading would be remarkable, but it'd leave them on 74. Even with the most pessimistic outlook in the world we're not going to take fewer than 16 points from the final 12. We've only lost 2 as well. Simply not clinical enough. Quote
Dr. Feelgood Posted February 21 Posted February 21 Well,we can, more or less, stop wondering about the automatics. Play-offs are awful but it's what we have & we must learn how to win. The squad is good enough. Are our systems ? Quote
gonzo Posted February 21 Posted February 21 I'm a self confessed happy clapper but like mick says above that's we aren't going up and tbh never were, unless through the play off lottery of course. No killer instinct. Not a finisher at the club. The game should've been dead and buried. At one nil we should've gone for them. But no. We allow them back in. So frustrated tonight. Quote
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