peelyfeet Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 41 minutes ago, boltondiver said: This is interesting https://www.wsoctv.com/news/trending/coronavirus-cdc-reviewing-stunning-universal-testing-results-boston-homeless-shelter/ZADQ45HCAZEVJAZA3OTCUR7M6M/ I wonder what proportion of the UK population have had it? They were living in a homeless shelter together, so I'm assuming the virus spread there would be higher than 397 people living in multiple homes. Going off the test results and the presumed death rate, I'd say we're at less than 5 million infected in UK. No-one is showing high % positive in large population test results yet, only in small clusters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted April 19, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted April 19, 2020 26 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Not tuned in for 2 weeks, just watch an hours news every day and browse the net. Peston, i always wanna stamp on the fuckers head, he has nose hair that Tarzan could swing on, blokes a proper twat! Kunttsberg just needs a good shagging along with Ridge, and that helmet headed fucker also off Sky, she needs her face rubbing in fox shit! Kinell, what you been on today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 10 hours ago, Spider said: Traf said we’d get nowhere near Italy. Did I? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderlust Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 3 hours ago, kent_white said: It's really hard to compare death rates in different countries. On one level I agree but any Government's response has to be appropriate to that country - and should take full account of the variables you mention - i.e. what is the appropriate response in one country may not be the same as in another and any Government's strategy will be tailor-made for their own people. Ultimately the Government is responsible for looking after it's citizens and therefore death rate per capita is a very accurate measure of how well the Government have gone about their business of looking after their citizens. On that score our Government hasn't done very well at all so far - 5th worst in the world without taking account of non-hospital deaths so possibly the worst performance of any Government in the world. If you disagree with that then you are simply saying that our Government's response wasn't appropriate for our demographic etc - i.e. also a strategic fail. The other obvious responsibility of the Government is to look after the economy - because obviously that will also have an effect on how they look after their citizens. Not convinced so far on that score either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted April 19, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted April 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, Traf said: Did I? No i meant Mounts. for which I apologise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted April 19, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted April 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, Hoppy510 said: The other obvious responsibility of the Government is to look after the economy - because obviously that will also have an effect on how they look after their citizens. Not convinced so far on that score either. I dunno, I think they have done pretty good on that score so far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted April 19, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted April 19, 2020 Just now, Mr Grey said: Newspaper reports saying a big percentage at risk will be obese overweight people, to put it not so politely, fat cunts! I'd be goosed... oh wait.. Thing is, they would class anyone in those categories as "underlying health issues" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morizio Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Newspaper reports saying a big percentage at risk will be obese overweight people, to put it not so politely, fat cunts! Best start saying goodbyes to those you are fond of on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Hoppy510 said: On one level I agree but any Government's response has to be appropriate to that country - and should take full account of the variables you mention - i.e. what is the appropriate response in one country may not be the same as in another and any Government's strategy will be tailor-made for their own people. Ultimately the Government is responsible for looking after it's citizens and therefore death rate per capita is a very accurate measure of how well the Government have gone about their business of looking after their citizens. On that score our Government hasn't done very well at all so far - 5th worst in the world without taking account of non-hospital deaths so possibly the worst performance of any Government in the world. If you disagree with that then you are simply saying that our Government's response wasn't appropriate for our demographic etc - i.e. also a strategic fail. The other obvious responsibility of the Government is to look after the economy - because obviously that will also have an effect on how they look after their citizens. Not convinced so far on that score either. Not sure wtf you are on about, being in Northern Europe we are geographically close to Italy, Spain, France, Germany, Belgium and Holland, 4 of those have worse death rates than us, Holland very similar, only Germany doing much better. We all wished we’d done better but your comments highlighted are made with out context and frankly disingenuous. Edited April 19, 2020 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 53 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: https://fullfact.org/online/50-thousand-ventilators/ Oh dear...... Not sure I had even heard the rumour about 50000 ventilators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnestTurnip Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 If you look at who is behind fullfact.org I'm not sure we can really take it that they would qualify as being independent, not saying they are lying but wouldn't be the first port of call for an independent assessment of how a conservative government has performed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Govt fighting back v Sunday Times https://healthmedia.blog.gov.uk/2020/04/19/response-to-sunday-times-insight-article/ I’ve no idea who is right, time will tell, but I like the fight back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 49 minutes ago, Ani said: Not sure I had even heard the rumour about 50000 ventilators. Was mentioned on here many times mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 36 minutes ago, ErnestTurnip said: If you look at who is behind fullfact.org I'm not sure we can really take it that they would qualify as being independent, not saying they are lying but wouldn't be the first port of call for an independent assessment of how a conservative government has performed. Well fella, plenty of the left sided folk on here take their every word as gospel, as previously displayed many times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 57 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: ...oh and Philip Schofield has now moved out of the family home, during LOCKDOWN. Was hoping no one would see him in the closet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Govt fighting back v Sunday Times https://healthmedia.blog.gov.uk/2020/04/19/response-to-sunday-times-insight-article/ I’ve no idea who is right, time will tell, but I like the fight back A fair amount of "this happened, no it didn't" in that response. But then I suppose there couldn't really be anything else; they aren't exactly going to release classified documents. I'm not sure I like the arsey "which is it?" though. Keep it robust but professional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnestTurnip Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Well fella, plenty of the left sided folk on here take their every word as gospel, as previously displayed many times. If that's the case then that's far more worrying than any right leaning people quoting them, strange times we're living in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 2 hours ago, peelyfeet said: Sorry mate, we'll have to agree to disagree. I cant stop myself from checking on how areas are doing against each other, and I'm still going to use population as one of several factors when I draw my own conclusions, and read data from others that use it too. It's more accurate if you do it at city level. Anyway, back to the sunshine and alcohol, have a good evening - how soon do you have to order at Cherry tree, when will they bring next Sunday menu out? I'm not telling you in case you beat me to it! If you follow them on Facebook they usually put something up during the week when they're taking orders. Just about to eat sticky toffee pudding and ice cream! 👍👍👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Just now, ErnestTurnip said: If that's the case then that's far more worrying than any right leaning people quoting them, strange times we're living in. Go through the archives Ernie, you'll see it was the Lefty Bible of Choice 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 19, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted April 19, 2020 49 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Govt fighting back v Sunday Times https://healthmedia.blog.gov.uk/2020/04/19/response-to-sunday-times-insight-article/ I’ve no idea who is right, time will tell, but I like the fight back I said earlier I thought there was more to come on this. Gove was clearly angered by the article. Presumably a number of top people were too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 33 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: I said earlier I thought there was more to come on this. Gove was clearly angered by the article. Presumably a number of top people were too. Gove. The bloke is a fucking snake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 47 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: I said earlier I thought there was more to come on this. Gove was clearly angered by the article. Presumably a number of top people were too. Who would of thought that this was yet another smear campaign full of mistruths. Good job nobody was stupid enough to believe it had any merit though eh 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Who would of thought that this was yet another smear campaign full of mistruths. Good job nobody was stupid enough to believe it had any merit though eh 🙄 The truth probably lies somewhere between the two, as usual. Nobody's covering themselves in glory, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 How could anyone doubt the integrity of a government involving Cummings, Gove and Bojo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted April 19, 2020 Moderators Share Posted April 19, 2020 15 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Who would of thought that this was yet another smear campaign full of mistruths. Good job nobody was stupid enough to believe it had any merit though eh 🙄 North Korea would love you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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