How come there isn't a thread for this ?

Is it because they've revealed their true colours, excuse the deliberate pun.

Folk were warned re their true intentions, but as always called racist by the naive.

 

1 hour ago, miamiwhite said:

 

but,but,but, but ,but,but they're "anti-racist ", & just by saying that, trumps any argument against them. 

1 hour ago, miamiwhite said:

 

"What we are against is the teaching of contested political theories as if they are accepted fact. We don't do this with communism; we don't do with socialism; we don't to it with capitalism". 

Couldn't agree more with that statement. Except she forgot to add conservatism to the end of that list

Good to see she understands the difference between BLM and black lives matter. Unlike some folk who still can't understand why some players are choosing to take the knee. 

The guilt thing doesn't add up though. Learning about the past in a balanced and honest way doesn't create guilt. Doing shitty things is usually what creates guilt in most people. Newsround had a couple of decent shows about Slavery in Glasgow and Liverpool. The children had an interesting discussion about it and none of them felt guilty about anything.

Rashford's got it right by focusing on inequality and poverty. We know that minority communities are disproportionately affected but we also know that white working class communities are equally affected. So let's not let race bog us down from addressing the issue. Good luck to him. 

2 hours ago, miamiwhite said:

 

Very brave statement. I can imagine she's going to get dogs abuse from some - but it was well articulated.

1 hour ago, London Wanderer said:

"What we are against is the teaching of contested political theories as if they are accepted fact. We don't do this with communism; we don't do with socialism; we don't to it with capitalism". 

Couldn't agree more with that statement. Except she forgot to add conservatism to the end of that list

Good to see she understands the difference between BLM and black lives matter. Unlike some folk who still can't understand why some players are choosing to take the knee. 

The guilt thing doesn't add up though. Learning about the past in a balanced and honest way doesn't create guilt. Doing shitty things is usually what creates guilt in most people. Newsround had a couple of decent shows about Slavery in Glasgow and Liverpool. The children had an interesting discussion about it and none of them felt guilty about anything.

Rashford's got it right by focusing on inequality and poverty. We know that minority communities are disproportionately affected but we also know that white working class communities are equally affected. So let's not let race bog us down from addressing the issue. Good luck to 

1 hour ago, London Wanderer said:

"What we are against is the teaching of contested political theories as if they are accepted fact. We don't do this with communism; we don't do with socialism; we don't to it with capitalism". 

Couldn't agree more with that statement. Except she forgot to add conservatism to the end of that list

Good to see she understands the difference between BLM and black lives matter. Unlike some folk who still can't understand why some players are choosing to take the knee. 

The guilt thing doesn't add up though. Learning about the past in a balanced and honest way doesn't create guilt. Doing shitty things is usually what creates guilt in most people. Newsround had a couple of decent shows about Slavery in Glasgow and Liverpool. The children had an interesting discussion about it and none of them felt guilty about anything.

Rashford's got it right by focusing on inequality and poverty. We know that minority communities are disproportionately affected but we also know that white working class communities are equally affected. So let's not let race bog us down from addressing the issue. Good luck to him. 

 

Great post 

 

Does this warrant a sacking and does the report need to come with a warning? 

1 minute ago, royal white said:

 

Does this warrant a sacking and does the report need to come with a warning? 

No and no

I can think of a few on here that will say yes. They will be along shortly with their candles whilst kneeling 

4 minutes ago, kent_white said:

No and no

Correct.

From what I saw (brief bit) he simply explained that a higher proportion of south Asians work in the FAs IT depth than another group (can't remember which). How dare he point out that certain groups seem to have different approaches to different work sectors. A racist cunt deserving of instant cremation at the stake.

Not.

I was watching the 3 leaders from the PL, EFL & FA being interviewed by the Parliamentary Select Committee on Parliament.tv, but fell asleep before Clarke's interrogation.

Racist, sexist or homophobic? Nah. Outdated views though.

Probably resigned out of embarrassment to be honest.

Edited November 10, 20205 yr by jmjhb

13 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

I can think of a few on here that will say yes. They will be along shortly with their candles whilst kneeling 

:lol:. I had a conversation with some a few months about the use of the word ‘coloured’ I was surprised how bad he thought it was. I genuinely lose track of what is acceptable. 
Based purely on the use of that I would say no.But If you then add his words on gays, women and people working there plus the recent break away it does seems he is out of touch. I have no idea what his job actually involves but if he is out of touch I have no problem him moving on. 
 

Dear me. I do hope its not just down to him using the term 'coloured'. Whilst its dated and a little ignorant, he's of that age where he probably gets confused about which term to use.

Edit - just seen the comments about bummers and stuff, so I think it's probably the correct decision. 

Edited November 10, 20205 yr by DazBob

20 minutes ago, Ani said:

::lol::. I had a conversation with some a few months about the use of the word ‘coloured’ I was surprised how bad he thought it was. I genuinely lose track of what is acceptable. 
Based purely on the use of that I would say no.But If you then add his words on gays, women and people working there plus the recent break away it does seems he is out of touch. I have no idea what his job actually involves but if he is out of touch I have no problem him moving on. 
 

I still use coloured I’m not ashamed to say. I don’t use it in a derogatory manner and genuinely didn’t know it was deemed derogatory. It’s a shame we are all white Middle Aged men on here or we could have got valuable insight into it. 

25 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

I still use coloured I’m not ashamed to say. I don’t use it in a derogatory manner and genuinely didn’t know it was deemed derogatory. It’s a shame we are all white Middle Aged men on here or we could have got valuable insight into it. 

Why do you still use it?

Edit - just spotted you weren't aware it could be seen as offensive. But, now you know, will you continue to use it?

Edited November 10, 20205 yr by DazBob

Being gay is a life choice...

Hes clearly a dick so time to go

Speaking as a not quite middle aged white man I didn't think coloured crossed over into full on racist just not PC. He's of the age where he was told coloured was the correct term to use so there's some leeway there.

The combination of that turn of phrase along with the rest of his ramblings mark him as out of touch at best.

51 minutes ago, DazBob said:

Why do you still use it?

Edit - just spotted you weren't aware it could be seen as offensive. But, now you know, will you continue to use it?

@Rudywas it you Who not long back mentioned a black relative that called others black people coloureds? 

24 minutes ago, royal white said:

@Rudywas it you Who not long back mentioned a black relative that called others black people coloureds? 

Yeah my Jamaican grandma. I personally wouldn’t be offended by it 

Just now, Rudy said:

Yeah my Jamaican grandma. I personally wouldn’t be offended by it 

Surely it is a generational thing? My dad was a racist dickhead at times so my mum would say coloured to be more polite. 

Bye, bye. Stupid thing to say, the last 10 years not happened to some folk? 

I'm on the EDI development group for my new place, it shows why we need this work to be done.

2 hours ago, royal white said:

 

Does this warrant a sacking and does the report need to come with a warning? 

I think an apology and and an explanation that it's a term that previously didn't offend, but does now, and how we need to have more awareness moving forward would've been more than sufficient in this case

A lot of folk don't mean anything by it, we need to move forward, no need to demonise it

My grandad used the term paki because that's what his generation did in a non offensive way, if he'd been around now I'm sure he'd have been aghast to think it offended

1 minute ago, Mr Grey said:

I got pulled up today for saying someone looked 'Oriental' 🤷‍♂️

Were they having a wank at the time ? 

1 minute ago, Winchester White said:

Surely it is a generational thing? My dad was a racist dickhead at times so my mum would say coloured to be more polite. 

Yeah definitely 

its not offensive or racist, uneducated in modern times maybe but racist, do me a favour