Brand Evatt

[Stig]

36 minutes ago, thebells said:

It's also important to understand that the quotes regarding illness were given to GMR / Wanderers TV post game, whilst the BN interview was a separate one which he gave slightly later (still at the ground).

This makes it more puzzling for me. Having gone down one route (and, to be fair, i believe the illness story - he'd come a cropper just making stuff up), it seems odd to then choose another line in a separate interview. 

So why then start referring to players attitudes? Again, I doubt he's making it up, but it seems a little naive to start going off at tangents. 

Huge injury list and illness - I have some sympathy for Evatt.

Clearly, however, some cultural issues to address. GJ did an interview where a players meeting was held in the dressing room post game. I'd imagine he was one of those calling other players out. Issues could be related to poor (character) recruitment, players demotivated after Wembley or players out of contract who aren't quite fully invested. 

Ultimately, culture (on the playing side) lies with Evatt. He'll know this...

... and today, all that matters, is whether our investors think he is the man to help them get a return on their investment. They decided to stick with him less than 24 hours after Huddersfield, so i imagine we'll know today based on news or silence.

One final note; Craddock absolutely had to go. Clearly, the words this weekend suggest that didn't solve those cultural problems.

 

What do you base the "Craddock absolutely had to go" on? I'm not disagreeing, i don't have any knowledge of what each of the coaches does tbh 

[desperado]

7 minutes ago, Zico said:

Very good @embankment 🤣👏

[Tombwfc]

2 hours ago, tomski said:

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/24713144.manager-gives-damning-verdict-bolton-wanderers-standards/

 

Weird... he could've just said 'well it's League One we're going to get battered every now and then'.

[Farnywhite]

58 minutes ago, Casino said:

I was told (a month ago) 3 players train day in day out in the way you would expect

Only 1 of em played on saturday, 2 others are injured

 

I thought the players were over trained and that was causing them so many injuries 🤷‍♂️ fuck knows what goes on down there if there slacking it’s still on him . we have all that bullshit when they sign players that they look at there attitude due diligence that was the reason he gave for not signing the Aussie from Scotland and one or two others over the years . 

[Duck Egg]

1 hour ago, Casino said:

I was told (a month ago) 3 players train day in day out in the way you would expect

Only 1 of em played on saturday, 2 others are injured

 

Are they suggesting just 3 are training properly and everyone else is doing their own thing/being half arsed? That'd be outrageous if so, both on Evatt and his staff but especially on the players themselves.

[Rizlar]

22 minutes ago, Duck Egg said:

Are they suggesting just 3 are training properly and everyone else is doing their own thing/being half arsed? That'd be outrageous if so, both on Evatt and his staff but especially on the players themselves.

I believe they are all shit hot at table tennis.

[Farrelli]

It sounds like a Sunday team. What a shambles.

[Zico]

just going round in circles now

Saturday shows whatever issues we have are still apparent

we knew players were a no show when the opposition are up for it

now we know they are a no show at training too

he had his time to think about things over the summer and what needed to be done

it didn't work

he had his chance to get things back on track after Huddersfield

sacked backroom staff

changed captain

and here we are again

no doubt the players have responsibilty

but the manager has to be able to manage them

how many more honest conversations and periods of reflection does everyone need?

[Marc505]

33 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

It sounds like a Sunday team. What a shambles.

It's the very familiar ragged end to a manager's term that we've seen a few times before. And the kind of interviews are coming out that if you saw at any other club that you didn't know much about you'd just assume "well he's on his way out".

 

[Eddie]

It’s like when Biden was holding out to remain as the candidate for the next election.

Everyone knew how it would end up, he clung onto excuses and tried to rally his support but it was only ever going to end one way, and it did. Question is, how long do you hold out and how much damage is done in that time.

[Rizlar]

The decision on his future is up to the board as he will not resign so he will be here a while longer !

[deeane Koontz]

Every cunt and their dog can see the patterns here. The board need to pull thier finger out and get shut. He's delusional  and will never walk on his own accord. Beginning to think Evatt is really Jim Jones and the boardroom is Jonestown.

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

18 hours ago, only1swanny said:

We are a League one team, we've been here for 3 seasons now? 9 years since we last played in the Championship and then we were beaten week in week out..

 

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to be up there, but now that we're in a league with teams with more financial clout than us, and more savvy set ups, we're going to struggle. 

Other teams' finances have nothing to do with out squad though. 

We've spent quite a bit, and as you say, on paper it's stronger. That's all there is to it.

Of course, they're not performing as well as they could/should but that doesn't automatically mean it's weaker.

Plenty of factors to consider as to why that is, but we know the biggest issue. 

[Duck Egg]

7 minutes ago, deeane Koontz said:

Every cunt and their dog can see the patterns here. The board need to pull thier finger out and get shut. He's delusional  and will never walk on his own accord. Beginning to think Evatt is really Jim Jones and the boardroom is Jonestown.

 

We've swapped bovril for kool aid! 

[Rival Son]

2 hours ago, thebells said:

One final note; Craddock absolutely had to go. Clearly, the words this weekend suggest that didn't solve those cultural problems.

This latest diatribe from Evatt suggests Craddock was the fall guy for all Evatt’s team failing to do their job! Of course, he was never one of Evatt’s boys.

[ianofcleveleys]

31 minutes ago, Marc505 said:

It's the very familiar ragged end to a manager's term that we've seen a few times before. And the kind of interviews are coming out that if you saw at any other club that you didn't know much about you'd just assume "well he's on his way out".

 

Agreed, much like the last throes of a Mourinho rein, where he'd say he'd given them all the information and instruction but they'd taken no notice

[Lostock Whites]

All the analysis and data aside, I just don't get how the board can seriously be sat thinking anything else but that change needs to happen.

And if they think that Evatt can be the one to change things around then they themselves are also incompetent at their jobs.

Sharon comes from a good place and I do agree with managers being allowed to have time. But in football you have to make proactive decisions or get left behind.

Circumstances slightly different yes, but Evatt had been in charge a year longer than Kieran McKenna had when he came into the job at Ipswich when we were both competing in League One(we finished above them in our first season back in League One).

On Saturday Ipswich beat Tottenham away in the Premier League where we got beaten 5-0 by Stockport County in League One

And Ipswich are not just an anomaly.

Des Buckingham at Oxford, only managed in India and Australia before managing in England properly, he exposed Evatts style for the whole world to see at Wembley and in that video. John Mousinho at Pompey another one. All those managers just as young and inexperienced as Evatt have all had less time than him and got their clubs out of this league.

And look now, there's another 2 coaches sitting in the top 2 of League 1, way above us and just as young and as inexperienced as Evatt, Matt Bloomfield and Chris Davies.

Evatt is playing the same formation and style since we played Ipswich last in League 1, they're in the Prem and we're still playing the same style. My biggest gripe with Evatt is we don't ever appear to LEARN and ADAPT.

As fans we don't need any more signs of a manager that has reached the end of his limits. And we certainly don't need more excuses. He's already blamed the players, fans, illnesses, a mysterious dark cloud since Wembley, opposition players for winding him up and getting a 3 match ban, and it's only November!

We've all had enough.

Edited November 11, 2024 by Lostock Whites

[Mantra]

Honestly couldn’t have said it any better @Lostock Whites

I would rather have a patient board than a trigger happy one. But the longer they leave this now the more chance they have of damaging their own reputations with the fans. Already seen a few posts on social media/here saying the board are incompetent for not sacking him.

I kept quiet through our post Huddersfield “hot streak”. The game against Reading we looked like we found some fire in our bellies but it was just a waiting game until the next “big match”.

I didn’t want to be too harsh after Birmingham as they are an outlier in the division but another BIG loss to a rival is the final confirmation to me that the Evatt era is over.

It seems incredibly unlikely that he can turn this round now and get us promoted and I would hate to see us just watch this season drift away from us without some sort of proactive change.

Schumacher in for me. Mark Robins I think would have better offers around.

[anewman]

When’s Anderson with a smile going to do the right thing and dump her pet?? 

[Farnywhite]

If the board don’t sack him it just shows a lack of ambition on there part and if there under the illusion crowds will keep at the same level season after season in league one there in for a shock 

[little whitt]

4 hours ago, Zico said:

is back in the Kitchen now 

where WOMAN should be 

[jeep]

He's lost the players.....

He's lost the majority of supporters.....

Alas, Shazza hasn't given up on him.....

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

27 minutes ago, jeep said:

He's lost the players.....

He's lost the majority of supporters.....

Alas, Shazza hasn't given up on him.....

 

Still early in the week.

I share the view that he may now have shot his bolt, following the interview.

Unless it was pre-discussed with the board, then I feel they may also share fans' thoughts.

Maybe something might happen later in the week, after they have all shared opinions (the board).

[Marc505]

Only thing I would say in his favour about this interview is (like most of his other outbursts that rile everyone up) It was done straight after full time on Saturday.

I feel theres often an attitude among people like oh for fucks sake Evatts doubled down on what hes said in another press conference, but in reality BN chose to keep these quotes back until today. As usual, Evatt will probably explain himself a little bit better in a sit down press conference, but we're well past that making a difference now anyway.

Edited November 11, 2024 by Marc505

[Mounts Kipper]

Its strange that Evatt has brought up the seemingly bad attitude after a defeat, we have won 6 from 8 in the league so it seems poor show to call it out after a defeat and one where players were reportedly poorly all week.