Evatt to Stay or Go? (Poll)

[Marc505]

48 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Definitely. You won't get a better summary than his big match verdict. 

Just hope the players read it.

He's at his best for me when he lets loose in articles like that, as he has done when we've had a massive failure in the past.

Fair play to him for responding to some of the follow up comments people are making as well. I simply don't believe there's some sort of conspiracy going on to keep the players quiet etc and at least he's putting people straight on that. He'll probably get bored of giving people the time of day who are suggesting the players don't care though.

[Sweep]

1 hour ago, Biggish Dave said:

Right, I've been thinking about this and reckon if IE stays, we'll see quite a big change in formation.

 

If IE stays, then I don't see that there will be any change in formation at all, I honestly can't see that he's ever going to change the way we set up

[gonzo]

3 minutes ago, Sweep said:

If IE stays, then I don't see that there will be any change in formation at all, I honestly can't see that he's ever going to change the way we set up

Never in a million years

The problem is that it works most of the time but fails when it matters most.

 

[Biggish Dave]

Evatt reckons 4-3-3 is his preferred formation so surprised he's not gone for it.

Will CMG be fit next season? I reckon it will be Christmas before he's 100%

Big week or 2 ahead 

[tungstenx]

I would stick with evatt since there hasbeen some progress yearly.He did chage to a direct approach against barnsley.

If we dont get promoted next season then yes time to go.

 

 

[tungstenx]

As to a replacement I think we have to get a passing style manager otherwise we have inappropriate squad for season long direct football.

[Casino]

2 hours ago, Steejay said:

No he didn't. He wouldn't change his system to fit in the most talented player in our squad - the only game changer that we had.

He ripped Ipswich to bits at the start of last season, probably one of the best individual performances that I've seen in the last 4/5 years but he was then wasted because of Evatt's stubbornness or, more basically, an inability to manage his best resources.

ok, fair enough

however, if we can agree he did all he could to fit him into his system

 

if you really want us to rip up the plan to get the best out of our best player - see, i really do rate him and did in div 4 when loons were on his back   - what happens if he gets injured?

we are almost certainly not replacing him with one as good

[Zico]

3 hours ago, Blondi said:

I think the club will probably stick with Evatt, but whether Evatt wants to stick around only he knows.

If Evatt does move on though, I would go for Gary Rowett, he's a really experienced manager and he's managed the majority of his career in the Championship, he's available too. 

I reckon he'll stay Brum

he's a funny one for me

seems to be well rated but has never actually done or won anything other than manager of the month once in league two

[W.cramp]

20 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

What’s rosenior done to make him a candidate for us? 

This.    I must be missing somet.

I voted stay but I really do not know,  perhaps a fresh face/ideas/no walking football could be for the best.

[woolli]

3 hours ago, Blondi said:

I think the club will probably stick with Evatt, but whether Evatt wants to stick around only he knows.

If Evatt does move on though, I would go for Gary Rowett, he's a really experienced manager and he's managed the majority of his career in the Championship, he's available too. 

Rowetts at Birmingham

[Deanu]

I wouldn't be arsed either way, I like IE & am thankful for the stability he has brought to us. When push comes to shove though he always gets exposed in the big games at this level & heads right back into the next one with no change same outcome. Goes on about how unlucky we were, happy with the way we played but in grand scheme of things teams are hoping we do try to play our temu version pep-ball as its easy to defend against & an easy win for the oppo. If he does stay I hope he changes things, go with wingers, bring some pacey dribblers to excite the fans, add one or two experienced heads to add much needed leadership what we've missed for years. I dont mind if we lose Santos & Dion they've been very good players for us but we may as well cash in whilst we can still get some decent money for them. They've had their chance to be us up, they haven't got much time left to make the step up so probs be this season. Freshen things up next season one way or another 

[W.cramp]

I,d go for that mon at Oxford,  seems quite good in big games and cancelling out the opposition.  

Can only admire what he has done since we beat em 5 nowt.

[Mantra]

Voted go.

would not hate it he stayed as long as we change formation.

We’ve been living off 3-5-2 because of one good spell from January last season. Since then it’s been very mixed and we’ve got nowhere near that run of form that it initially brought when we beat Sunderland 6-0.

And despite being in the playoff places all season we didn’t really have any particular long run where we smashed it. It was always 2 steps forward and one step back.

[BeeversLeftPeg]

5 minutes ago, Mantra said:

Voted go.

would not hate it he stayed as long as we change formation.

We’ve been living off 3-5-2 because of one good spell from January last season. Since then it’s been very mixed and we’ve got nowhere near that run of form that it initially brought when we beat Sunderland 6-0.

And despite being in the playoff places all season we didn’t really have any particular long run where we smashed it. It was always 2 steps forward and one step back.

For me it's about him being able to alter formation when we're up against someone who knows how to play against us. That change in January 2021 from 3-5-2 to 4-2-3-1 was a catalyst for that ridiculous run that saw us go up. 

3-5-2 has worked a lot this season, but we don't have the players to change it when it isn't working. Collins, Williams, Mendes Gomes all capable of playing as wingers, and it would be good to have the option to make those kind of changes during a game, or vice versa.

[Johnnyrotten]

4 hours ago, Stig said:

Stay, but be a completely different person then 😃

Ha ha!  I find it puzzling that anyone would say he can stay as long as he manages like some of those other managers out there 😀  Fair enough if people think he deserves another chance, but he ain't changing rightly or wrongly.

Next we'll be saying let's have Paul Warne to replace him but if you don't mind could you play some nice intricate football while you get us promoted?

[ZiggyStardust]

Voted go.

Genuinally 50-50, I see the good that he's done over 4 years, but also see the almost steellike resolution to one formation, one style.

Tipped the balance due to non footballing reasons, I don't like him as a person, and can't help feeling that off the field activities will come to haunt him (us).

 

 

No idea who would be a replacement, but that wasnt the question.

[Nottm_Wanderer]

He stays we've had some great football to watch at times.

 

He needs a decent number 2 , not a yes man , someone with a bit of nous someone a bit hard.

 A bit leftfield this but I think Cameron Jerome is a wise hand , players will respect him . Don't know if he's got his badges but you watch him on the touchline he's enthusiastic, barks instructions to players ... Just a thought 

 

 

[Blondi]

3 hours ago, woolli said:

Rowetts at Birmingham

Not anymore, he left them on the 4TH May, he was only Brum's manager on an interim basis.

[Under_Score]

Go for me

He has had 3 cracks at it and ultimately we are in the same position, still sat in league 1. If he was going to learn, we would have at least seen some deviation away from his usual set up in games this season but we haven’t. 

As previously mentioned, an IE team isn’t going to be taking too many points off teams managed by the likes of Duff, Evans, Rowett and to an extent Parkinson with their physical and well drilled set ups and we have already handed 6 points to Wigan before the season starts. 

Alex Neill would be my first choice and have championed his name for a while as Evatt’s successor. Proven track record in this division and the one above. 

 

[bwfc6ix]

2 hours ago, Nottm_Wanderer said:

He stays we've had some great football to watch at times.

 

He needs a decent number 2 , not a yes man , someone with a bit of nous someone a bit hard.

 A bit leftfield this but I think Cameron Jerome is a wise hand , players will respect him . Don't know if he's got his badges but you watch him on the touchline he's enthusiastic, barks instructions to players ... Just a thought 

 

 

Would be very surprised if he wasn’t in a coaching role of some capacity next season…if Evatts still in the job. 

[gonzo]

1 hour ago, bwfc6ix said:

Would be very surprised if he wasn’t in a coaching role of some capacity next season…if Evatts still in the job. 

He already has been this season.

[Arrested development]

8 hours ago, gonzo said:

Never in a million years

The problem is that it works most of the time but fails when it matters most.

 

It's not just to do with the way we set up. It's the way the opposition set up. It's clear as fucking day that we struggle against teams that sit deep in the low block and cut off the passing lanes. Wigan did it, Oxford did it, Shrewsbury did it. Countless other teams have done it. Barnsley pressed high and we beat them. 

We need to figure out a way to play against that. Countless fucking times we've come up against teams that sit back , hit us on the break , have 20 percent possession and beat us. 

Edited May 20, 2024 by Arrested development

[Eavesy]

Whether he stays or goes we can’t financially afford to change the system.

We have zero wingers in the entire squad. Not a single one. 

You don’t just need 2, you need 4 or 5 of em. Especially with all the cup games. We don’t have the financial power to go get 5 decent wingers. 

 

We also have no one who can win a header up front. So any style has to be ground based passing or wing backs crossing low. Another huge constraint to any change in style. 

 

The only solution we have is to have a manager who can get the most out of what we have now and what style they can play. 
 

Stick with Evatt.

Pray George Johnston comes back fit and gives us a boost in defence.

Sign a proper left wing back who has confidence with the ball. Williams is all when and good around the opponents box. He shits himself in our own half and goes back to toal every single time. Every time. 
 

Maghoma won’t be a big loss. He goes missing in the big games or when it gets a bit feisty. Another reason we fail in those. 

[tomski]

2 minutes ago, Eavesy said:

Whether he stays or goes we can’t financially afford to change the system.

We have zero wingers in the entire squad. Not a single one. 

You don’t just need 2, you need 4 or 5 of em. Especially with all the cup games. We don’t have the financial power to go get 5 decent wingers. 

 

We also have no one who can win a header up front. So any style has to be ground based passing or wing backs crossing low. Another huge constraint to any change in style. 

 

The only solution we have is to have a manager who can get the most out of what we have now and what style they can play. 
 

Stick with Evatt.

Pray George Johnston comes back fit and gives us a boost in defence.

Sign a proper left wing back who has confidence with the ball. Williams is all when and good around the opponents box. He shits himself in our own half and goes back to toal every single time. Every time. 
 

Maghoma won’t be a big loss. He goes missing in the big games or when it gets a bit feisty. Another reason we fail in those. 

Collins and Mendes Gomes are wingers

[Dimron]

On 19/05/2024 at 20:12, Casino said:

For the first time, im only say 70/80% keep him and think its much more likely he jumps than is pushed, but Phil Brown??

Get fucked

There was a very interesting interview with him in the Guardian a couple of months ago, he was recounting how he turned a match around at Kidderminster Harriers... "all the managers at this level want to play like City but we found a way through"... got me thinking