Rotherham United (A)

[Duck Egg]

2 hours ago, SatanGreavsie said:

Just on the brandy to try to defrost. Comes to summat when the highlight of the day was the pork barm from that wagon before the game. Top notch, but downhill from then on - to say the fucking least.

They did look belting tbf. I just couldn't be arsed queuing up.  This general malaise is even getting to us supporters!

[Barnstoneworth White]

5 hours ago, victor meldrew said:

Guaranteed 2/3-0 win on Tuesday 

What time am I picking you up?

[FrancisFogarty]

8 minutes ago, Duck Egg said:

They did look belting tbf. I just couldn't be arsed queuing up.  This general malaise is even getting to us supporters!

And that means it's getting real bad. And I don't mean turning down the chance a nice pork barm. 

[SatanGreavsie]

10 minutes ago, Duck Egg said:

They did look belting tbf. I just couldn't be arsed queuing up.  This general malaise is even getting to us supporters!

Nah, you missed out there mate as queue was faster than you'd have thought. Fucking belting, melt in yer mouth freshly cooked. Should have have just fucked off after that to be honest. Classier and better value for money than owt on the pitch.

[wakey]

I thought the same about the substitutions, but if there was any doubt I reckon his post-match comments are a cry for help.

It's become absolutely clear to me Sharon's holding him here against his will.

All makes sense when you think about it.

I reckon "moments" is his safe word but she keeps ignoring him.

[Leyther_Matt]

19 minutes ago, SatanGreavsie said:

Nah, you missed out there mate as queue was faster than you'd have thought. Fucking belting, melt in yer mouth freshly cooked. Should have have just fucked off after that to be honest. Classier and better value for money than owt on the pitch.

Wish I’d have held on to get one of those after the game instead of £4 dangerously lukewarm Pukka sausage roll 

[marple whites]

Where do I start ? 2 hours to get from Marple to Sheffield on normally a 50 min train.

got off at dore to get an uber to Sheffield, then ok to the ground.

frist 10 ok, should have gone 1 up (Johnston) then the next 60 was embarrassing from all 11 plus subs.  Left at 3, back to Sheffield- took half an hour.

then best hour of the day - killer in the Howard at Sheffield.

train then again delayed, kicked off the train at new mills, another drink, then only half of us got back on as mix up with platforms, so 2 under 16s on, dad not, got home 10 hours after leaving for a local game.

 

do the players or manager have any idea of the cost and time we put into these nob heads ? They haven’t got the first idea - and the cold shoulder from my missus is worse than the 2 hours watching that game.

something has to give, fans falling out, players not arsed, manager blaming the players - and as for his post match interview……

anyway, back to the g and t

 

Edited January 11, 2025 by marple whites

[kent_white]

2 hours ago, Cheese said:

If he's that bad, why do you want read his articles?

I don't - I want to read what Ian Evatt said in full. I used to work with the guy - so I should get it for free on principle! 😁

[kent_white]

2 hours ago, TrickyTrotter said:

Usually works on the BEN site

https://12ft.io

Thank you! 👍 

[superkev]

Just watched the highlights. Look closely on their 3rd goal. Looks like he palms the ball into his path before he shoots. 

[W.cramp]

15 minutes ago, superkev said:

Just watched the highlights. Look closely on their 3rd goal. Looks like he palms the ball into his path before he shoots. 

The 3rd goal,   where the fuk was baxter going ?   

[Kane57]

Has he gone yet 

[Lostock Whites]

Would a new manager guarantee promotion? No.

Would a new manager do as bad as we are doing right now? Unlikely.

Emphasis on the word "new". This club could not be more desperate for a new approach right now.

The clubs mentality has been smashed and not recovered ever since the Oxford play off defeat. A reset is essential. We are just wasting time, people's and the clubs money right now just going in circles.

Evatt has been given the keys to the kingdom and beyond, back to the fullest, brought in a lot of new players that are arguably the best in the league. Yet they all have looked shadows of the former selves under him.

Good managers get the best out of individuals and here we have reached a point where our manager is blaming our failures on the very individuals we signed and have coached, some for over 3/4 years.

In summary, going back to what I said at the top. A new manager might not mean salvation, but good god it is what is needed. I have no doubt in my mind that somebody can get a tune out of these players.

Let's not forget, we are in a truly horrid league, a league we can't get out of yes, but a league when where you do the basics and sprinkle a couple of talented players on top, you can see yourselves at the very least in the top 6.

With the players we have at our disposal, the size of the club, 22,000 average attendances, the potential. There's a lot of managers out there that would jump at the chance.

It might not need to be a '5 year plan', maybe just an experienced head to just get us out of this league. Sharon's personal relationship and loyalty is breaking the club apart and leaving us behind.

The Championship we can worry about if/when we get there. 

But right now we are still in League 1 and this manager is not good enough to get us promoted out of this league.

Edited January 11, 2025 by Lostock Whites

[Leyther_Matt]

17 minutes ago, W.cramp said:

The 3rd goal,   where the fuk was baxter going ?   

Seemed harder to put it back in front of goal than pushing it away for a corner

[Alf Hartigan]

I’m a season ticket holder, always have been but given up with this guy. Didn’t even listen to it today. His post match interview is shocking. Get someone else in, but not Wayne Rooney 😀

[Zico]

7 hours ago, gonzo said:

The players have got away with murder for a long long time. It's about time they were called out.

He's going down swinging, they deserve to hear a few home truths if anything else.

...but once you start doing that, its over.

And yes, he signed them, it's all on his watch. He's ultimately to blame.

But we all know our players could be doing better than they are.

Bunch of overpaid shithouses.

 

They locked themselves in the changing room at Stockport without evatt there and had "honest conversations"

This problem is not going away

[LodgeMorrWhite]

Rotherham will not have an easier game of football this year.  We were second best all day, it was nothing football, utterly pointless

[Wanderlust]

1 hour ago, LodgeMorrWhite said:

Rotherham will not have an easier game of football this year.  We were second best all day, it was nothing football, utterly pointless

“Second best all day” and Evatt’s “outfought all over the pitch” give the impression it’s a perpetual competition for 50 - 50 balls but that is deceptive and just plain wrong.
A good pass to a team mate should give his marker no chance. 

The problem is we didn’t pass to each other - we passed into areas which gave them a chance of getting the ball. Rotherham didn’t - they made their man favourite far more often than us. 
And their forwards had the ability to outrun/get behind our back 2 (?) because we committed too many men men forward to support our ponderous attacks whereas they maintained a disciplined defensive line and attacked more effectively despite using less men.

our players are overhyped and to play Evatt’s way they would need to be a lot better, a lot quicker, and a lot smarter.

Cant waste the ball that often and expect any result other than a loss. We made it easy for them.

[little whitt]

7 hours ago, Zico said:

They locked themselves in the changing room at Stockport without evatt there and had "honest conversations"

This problem is not going away

I Blame The Cunt Who Opend The Door And Let Them OUT 

[tomski]

8 hours ago, superkev said:

Just watched the highlights. Look closely on their 3rd goal. Looks like he palms the ball into his path before he shoots. 

I thought it was handball at the time. 

[L/H White]

8 hours ago, Lostock Whites said:

Would a new manager guarantee promotion? No.

Would a new manager do as bad as we are doing right now? Unlikely.

Emphasis on the word "new". This club could not be more desperate for a new approach right now.

The clubs mentality has been smashed and not recovered ever since the Oxford play off defeat. A reset is essential. We are just wasting time, people's and the clubs money right now just going in circles.

Evatt has been given the keys to the kingdom and beyond, back to the fullest, brought in a lot of new players that are arguably the best in the league. Yet they all have looked shadows of the former selves under him.

Good managers get the best out of individuals and here we have reached a point where our manager is blaming our failures on the very individuals we signed and have coached, some for over 3/4 years.

In summary, going back to what I said at the top. A new manager might not mean salvation, but good god it is what is needed. I have no doubt in my mind that somebody can get a tune out of these players.

Let's not forget, we are in a truly horrid league, a league we can't get out of yes, but a league when where you do the basics and sprinkle a couple of talented players on top, you can see yourselves at the very least in the top 6.

With the players we have at our disposal, the size of the club, 22,000 average attendances, the potential. There's a lot of managers out there that would jump at the chance.

It might not need to be a '5 year plan', maybe just an experienced head to just get us out of this league. Sharon's personal relationship and loyalty is breaking the club apart and leaving us behind.

The Championship we can worry about if/when we get there. 

But right now we are still in League 1 and this manager is not good enough to get us promoted out of this league.

Probably not, our squad is hugely overrated, all this nonsense of best squad in the league is well, nonsense 

Wed hopefully be more solid and setup so we aren't so easy to play against 

Edited January 12, 2025 by L/H White

[DaveTheRave]

So we have a group of mentally weak and mentally fragile players according to the manager.

Evatt is exactly those things himself. So many examples of this in his life away from football and also examples in his management.

At the start of the season he kept mentioning that there was a black cloud over the club. There is and it's called Evatt. 

 

[Eddie]

8 hours ago, Leyther_Matt said:

Seemed harder to put it back in front of goal than pushing it away for a corner

We couldn’t believe what we were watching on that 3rd with what Johnston was doing.

He just ran next to their player, mostly with about a 4 yard gap. Never once did he put pressure on him, he never tried to tackle him, even when he got his shot off he was nowhere near him to block it - it was like he was just shadowing him in some kind of weird non-contact training routine. Bizarre 

[Stig]

52 minutes ago, L/H White said:

Probably not, our squad is hugely overrated, all this nonsense of best squad in the league is well, nonsense 

Wed hopefully be more solid and setup so we aren't so easy to play against 

Agree on the squad being overrated. It's definitely unbalanced and lacking physicality.

But a new manager would hopefully not do something as stupid as deciding Rotherham are dominating so let's go to 1 midfielder and 4 forwards at 60mins.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, L/H White said:

Probably not, our squad is hugely overrated, all this nonsense of best squad in the league is well, nonsense 

Wed hopefully be more solid and setup so we aren't so easy to play against 

For me the squad is fine.

We'll see if/when a new man comes in what they are or aren't capable of.